Harry and Meghan court dramas (not Suits)

[ARoseInHarlem]

Starting this thread while I digest the last few posts on the previous thread. I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s, if not worse.

Possibly although I suspect there is more bad feeling towards Harry and Meghan than the Royal Family and a whole host of people who are completely bemused by the antics. The public was very much on Diana’s side in the 90s.

I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s

The Charles and Diana saga was easier to comprehend. The affairs, tit-for-tat articles, interviews - all perfectly understandable (if unedifying) as to why they happened. I am at a loss to explain the HaM saga. Things like 'The Letter'. I still don't really understand what was so bad about it or why it should cause such a furore, enough to engage the litigation process.

I think a lot of people are disgusted with H and M. In many people's eyes, they have been very disrespectful to the Queen who is definitely far more popular and loved than she was during the Charles and Di years. I don't think H and M can inflict much damage, at least in the UK. If anything, it will solidify public support behind the RF.

i think their new book (Finding Freedom) is causing an issue as well.
i dont think RF are happy with its publication.

Yet there are still people peddling the myth that, from a family point of view, they're still much-loved members.
My arse!!!

I reckon the whole billion pound claim is just another example of MM's belief that only she can rescue and modernise little old UK. If only people would do as she asks then the RF would be so modern and so much better. No sense of maybe she should keep quiet, listen and learn before "hitting the ground running".

I can't believe the snide criticism of the RF. There really is no way back from this. The sound you can hear is the last bridge back to the UK collapsing into dust.

Harry is so besotted he really can't see the damage this is doing. I wonder who is paying the lawyers. Prince Charles adores his son so I can't see him ever cutting Harry and MM off but he must feel that currently he is paying for his daughter to insult him and all he stands for. He must have shelled put millions on this ungrateful pair in the last couple of years.

The claim that they have had relatively little public funding is insulting to the British taxpayer. I don't think we've had value for money at all. As for the stuff about B & E being precedent, again the claims are ignorant. B & E are not on the civil list, they do not carry out official engagements and their jobs were pretty normal - no wanting to save the world. Very different from H& M.

What Barleylemon said. Exactly. "The Letter" and a GDPR "scandal." The billion quid, treatment by the royal family all of tgat us completely and utterly irrelevant to the actual claim. I am embarrassed for her lawyers.

I'm sure H is still much loved.

They pair of them have behaved like bratty toddlers and continue to do so.

I can’t quite believe the 1 billion £ claim! That’s just delusional and mad. They have been so disrespectful to the queen, in many different ways. They really are a pair of petulant children with a massive chip on their shoulder.

Catching up from the last thread. The change of lawyers does look ominous. Though surely, surely they can't sue the very people who are funding them (who presumably would be paying the bills of both sets of lawyers)?

@MissEliza

I'm sure H is still much loved.

Nope I don't think so. He's always been viewed as a spoilt brat by most. But the whole I will preach about climate change but I HAVE to get a private jet is -so mind bogglingly unacceptable and they can't see it. He support her and them and THEIR decisions.

Thanks for the new thread OP.

Though surely, surely they can't sue the very people who are funding them (who presumably would be paying the bills of both sets of lawyers)?

That is hilarious and deranged all in one go.

Thanks for the new thread OP x

Where have you all seen the lawyer change? I haven’t seen it mentioned. But it is indeed ominous - they even fall out with their lawyers so it seems.

I actually think posters on these threads, in their disdain for H&M, tend to overegg the public warmth of feeling for the RF. Apart from the Queen, I don't think the public give two hoots about most of them, or feel quite negative. The arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell will reignite publicity for Andrew's shady antics. The older among us will recall Prince Charles attempts to influence political decisions and the letters that are not subject to FOI legislation have not been entirely forgotten.

When the queen goes I think the RF is on a shoogly peg.

I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s

But not half as unsettling as Prince Andrew finding himself in the slammer.

@callmeadoctor

Thanks for the new thread OP x

Yes, thank you, OP. These threads are keeping me sane because I am obviously not the only one who can't make head nor tail of everything that is transpiring on planet HaM.

Honestly, I am embarrassed for the pair of them, as they have no idea how ridiculous they appear. I think they have overplayed their hand with this Court case though.

The law firm may have dropped them as clients, because of potential conflicts of interest.

I don't think HMQ can remove their titles, I believe it has to be done by an act of Parliament. In a way, that's better - the public can ask for it, and the BRF is removed from the decision.

Keep thinking how M said yes before H had finished proposing. Seems there was no point where she engaged her brain, looked at the RF and realised it would be up to her to fit in.

I don't think HMQ can remove their titles, I believe it has to be done by an act of Parliament. In a way, that's better - the public can ask for it, and the BRF is removed from the decision.

The HRH or the Dukedom? Wasn't the Dukedom conferred by HMQ on marriage?

Sorry I meant H is loved by his family.

The dukedom. HMQ can strip Harry of HRH, but I doubt she will do so.

@TheNavigator

I'm an on/off poster on these threads. Tend not to engage in the gossiping (although I do read it), I'm much more interested in the power dynamics between the RF - a commoner (an American biracial woman at that) - the courts - the media.

I'm profoundly - PROFOUNDLY - anti-monarchy. Having grown up in the UK I recognise the reverence some people feel for the RF, and these space it occupies in the British psyche. But I would be first to vote for the abolition of the RF and the return of its wealth to the people.

I agree with you: the era of Elizabeth II will mark the end of a certain type of society in the UK. Charles's reign is going to usher in a different type of monarchy, which William will continue. By the time George ascends to the throne, the monarchy will be unrecognisable from today's.