Harry and Meghan court dramas (not Suits)

[ARoseInHarlem]

Starting this thread while I digest the last few posts on the previous thread. I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s, if not worse.

I really don't think they've thought it through. They must have been advised against it. What do they hope to achieve? Could it all just be about just getting their grievances on the public record?

As it is a civil case and not a criminal case, I don't think anyone can be made to testify. They will be asking people for statements to be included as evidence - but to include as evidence those witnesses would need to be available to give evidence in court for cross examination if needed.

Interesting opinion piece on perceptions of the royals abroad

www.ndtv.com/opinion/prince-william-and-kate-can-save-the-royal-family-2258464

I really don't think they've thought it through. I'm not sure those two ever think anything through!

@CallmeAngelina

Beautifully apt observation from Sarah Vine this evening, whereby she likens Meghan's gazing at Harry during his 'speech' as being like an adoring mother watching her slightly dim child reciting a poem off-by-heart!'

How horrible. What a truly unpleasant woman she is - but then, she does seem to believe she has to micro manage her own husband who she obviously considers unremittingly thick, so I think there is more than a spot of projection going on Sarah Vince treats Michael Gove like an idiot

clearedfortakeoff

@rousette don't you have a job or anything to do during the day? You seem to live on this thread. Can't be a healthy way to live.

Find something to do.

You could probably say the same to me but I am retired so my time is my own ( if not required for childcare) !

The gazing at him is strange. Every time I see it it makes me laugh as it simply doesn't look genuine to me. I do sometimes wonder if some of their problems with how they are perceived is the absolutely terrible over acting.

New thread?

@EthelMayFergus

The gazing at him is strange. Every time I see it it makes me laugh as it simply doesn't look genuine to me. I do sometimes wonder if some of their problems with how they are perceived is the absolutely terrible over acting.

To me, the gazing is the first lesson in drama school - how to show you love and adore someone.

Then there's there's the 'how to emphasise you're pregnant' look....clasp your arms over the top and bottom of your bump.

Yes, everything is over done. Something slightly amusing? Bend over double to pretend to laugh. Want to convince the world you're in love? Never be seen without the pda and gazing. I think in the industry it's called 'hamming it up' and it's just too much to look convincing. Imo it's one of the reasons that they come across as insincere.

I also remember that Kate was harassed, stalked, and criticised by the press, and vilified by the public. It's not that long ago.
Roussette I am curious why you are so extremely - as in beyond what most people would think is reasonable - invested in defending and supporting Meghan and Harry? I really am bemused by this.

I think that Meghan, as an American actress, has lots of gestures that seem over the top and unusual to typically more reserved British people. Unfortunately, regardless of how she means it, it often comes across as insincere and as if she is playing a part rather than caring about the cause or what she is saying. I’m also not a fan of talking in cliches and waffling on, which the few speeches I’ve seen her do have been full of. As Harry has now started to do the same, I feel he is even less genuine because it isn’t how he used to talk. I’m guessing an American audience wouldn’t view it the same way that I do.

@clearedfortakeoff the 'you're over invested, spending loads of time posting about this' line has been used to criticise posters on the thread before, usually those critical of the Sussexes. It's not fair then so let's not use it about pro-Sussex posts or posters either.

I think that is actually the crux of it - so much comes across as contrived. People just have an instinct for noticing this - it makes you feel uncomfortable. It was there from the engagement interview.

I am not suggesting there is any sinister motivation but so much feels like a performance - like the way you can instinctively tell the difference between documentary and acting when watching tv. Even when someone is playing themselves in a cameo or something.

Sunbathingdragon Yes, I see what you mean about the American/British characteristics so what looks fake to Brits may well look fine to Americans. I don't really see it from other American actors though, even in films where they are acting, but I suppose that's the skill; to act without looking like you're acting. Imo neither Harry nor Meghan can pull that off and I'm yet to believe they care about anything other than their image.

Crossed post OneMile, totally agree, the engagement interview was just 'off' to me, despite being happy for them then.

Roussette I am curious why you are so extremely - as in beyond what most people would think is reasonable - invested in defending and supporting Meghan and Harry? I really am bemused by this

Pehaps Rousette IS Meghan :) Or Harry.

I can't imagine H or M watching Corrie!

I think it comes from a mix of acting training and US public speaking training. DH's friend is an award-winning, professional public speaker in the US and when i first saw him speak, he seemed ott and insincere.
He isn't. He's actually a lovely person who cares deeply about the issues he speaks about but there is such a chasm between UK professional speakers and US ones. UK tends to value clarity, humour, sincerity. US professional speaking organisations value emotion, projection, emoting.
I've never thought of it in terms of Meghan before but it may be what's impacting how she comes across.

There has been a fair amount of fallout on them taking it on themselves to criticize the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth was designed to replace and heal the scars of Empire.

I was actually out believe it or not, sorry you missed me lol

@phpolly I've explained endlessly why I come on here. This thread, my post Saturday 1908hrs sums it up for me.

I can go on any threads as much or as little as I like, as can all other posters. And as for being paid... I've disputed that on this thread, obviously some posters don't read. I found that assertion hilarious!

And thank you Buttery

@Roussette I think it is good to have a counterbalance actually as it stops these discussions descending into the pure venom that echo chambers can create.

Out of interest when you hear Meghan speak do you hear sincerity and authenticity? Is interests me how people can watch the same thing and come away with different perspectives