Harry and Meghan court dramas (not Suits)

[ARoseInHarlem]

Starting this thread while I digest the last few posts on the previous thread. I think the H&M saga could be as unsettling for the RF as the Charles & Diana bad publicity in the 1990s, if not worse.

Why does a self described feminist need KP to defend her?

I am gobsmacked by Harry's latest hostage video treatise on institutionalized racism, given he's a member of one of the most privileged families in the world, taking money given to him solely because of his institutionalized privilege.

But surely all this is immaterial. If Andrew goes to prison, the ramifications will be huge for the monarchy.

@User214934514

I think Harry may be able to redeem himself if he returned to the UK alone. Imagine the first headlines and photos of him reunited with W&K, genuinely happy to be back on British soil, playing with his nephews and niece. It would be chalked up to a huge mistake/quarter life crisis and he will have to keep a low profile doing engagements for a while. Maybe meet a very discreet second wife and settle down with more kids off the media radar. He's only 35 and if things keep going the way they're doing now he'll probably be a bachelor again before 40 and still have the best decades of his life ahead.

And his son -Archie??? Weekend and school holiday access with his father. So that Harry can be with W&K again. Sounds great you've got your priorities in order

@HannahStern, I doubt Andrew will be charged with anything, let alone do prison time. From what we know to date, he’s morally repugnant, but not a criminal.

thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/palace-press-team-couldnt-defend-meghan-against-true-stories-vr7ptvf7n

Meghan says she felt 'unprotected' by the palace, but the palace couldn't respond to damaging stories - because they were true.

One case that had angered the Duchess involved the resignation of her PA Melissa Toubati, who quit in 2018 amid rumours she had been reduced to tears by Meghan's demands.

The Kensington Palace press team had difficulty in denying the stories, because they were true.

'The stories were a drop in the ocean compared to what was going on,' another source said.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert_of_the_Rhine

Grandson of James Vi of Scotland / James I of England and nephew of Charles I.

Uncle of George I of England

Prince Harry’s great (Charles) great (Elizabeth) great (George Vi) great (George V) great (Edward VIII) great (Victoria) great (duke of Kent) great (George III) great (George II) great (George I) Uncle

I think I have this right. Directly, although distantly, related.

Rupert was an active shareholder in the Company of Royal Adventurers Trading into Africa that was established as a result in 1662. The company continued operations for the next eight years, with backers including the King, the Duke of York and the Royal Society, with operations including engaging in the West Africa slave trade until it folded in 1670. The company's operations merged with those of the Gambia Merchants' Company into the new Royal African Company, with a royal charter to set up forts, factories, troops and to exercise martial law in West Africa, in pursuit of trade in gold, silver and slaves; Rupert was the third named member of the company's board.

The prince alienated many because he was frequently irascible, tactless, impatient, and—most seriously—a poor judge of character. [188]

No wonder the Royal Family are keeping quiet about BML.

I seem to recall that Diana was left to do her own thing whilst being married, albeit formally separated from Charles. It was only when she started to be perceived as being a loose cannon that HMQ instructed her and Charles to divorce. The divorce then cost her the HRH status although she remained the Princess of Wales. I agree it H&M divorce there is no way Meghan will keep HRH but who knows about the Duchess of Sussex and unless taken from her, I think she will choose to keep it.

If she keeps it will she lose it when she marries again? The Dutchess title that is

I hid this section for ages and I should know better than to come back because my blood pressure is rising.

I mean - at the last hearing all of those points were thrown out. What are they THINKING? The tourism revenue vs cost of wedding is irrelevant (and wrong) - what is literally the point of mentioning this - and using the case as a forum to state that she felt 'unprotected' by the royal family is not relevant to a GDPR/ copyright claim. What it comes across as is her trying to defend sharing the letter with others but still wanting it classed as 'private' at the same time. However sympathetic one could be with that - and I do have sympathy - it won't work like that. The judge may still rule in her favour but that won't be the reason why - all getting those things out there does is create more unhappiness with her husband's family.

This is sooo weird. It's like a Lady Di Part II scenario but as if they've cut right to the divorce/Tampon Gate.

YouSayWhat

This was fascinating last night:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b063db18

And his son -Archie??? Weekend and school holiday access with his father. So that Harry can be with W&K again. Sounds great you've got your priorities in order confused

It's obvious that in the event of a separation chances are virtually nil that Harry will be able to take him back to the UK (unless it happens much later on and that's what A explicitly wants). It's a tragic but common fact of long-haul divorces. As a PP said, Archie will have a very unusual childhood growing up as a British blood royal in LA without any connection to his country and 'subjects'.

Another thought is that if things go pear-shaped, the RF is probably happy to let MM have full custody. Having Archie split his time between UK and USA especially as a young child means MM will be back more often as well. After the whole shitshow (the worst of which is still yet to come), they probably don't want anything to do with her either.

I mean - at the last hearing all of those points were thrown out. What are they THINKING? The tourism revenue vs cost of wedding is irrelevant (and wrong) - what is literally the point of mentioning this - and using the case as a forum to state that she felt 'unprotected' by the royal family is not relevant to a GDPR/ copyright claim.

I think she is just desperate to get her 'side' of the story out - she obviously can't give a tell-all interview without jeopardising the funding from Charles, so she's using her legal filings as a means of getting her point across on the public record.

Unfortunately she has completely misjudged the public mood, none of these things are likely to engender the sympathy she wants - they just make her look entitled, self-important and manipulative.

Archie is going to grow up very confused about his place in the world. Is anybody sure what it is. But does it matter. That's why I really don't agree with the concept of royalty.

For such a vocal (apparent) feminist, the continual reliance upon her DH and his family for protection and finance seems pretty two-faced to me.

I think that all the latest claims and statements are to give the RF a taster of what will be in Finding Freedom. It's a shot across the bows to warn HMQ of the style and content.

@ajandjjmum

For such a vocal (apparent) feminist, the continual reliance upon her DH and his family for protection and finance seems pretty two-faced to me.

As are most things they do.... don’t fly but we will use a private jet etc

MM did not want privacy. She wanted secrecy. That is why she wanted the Palace to deny perfectly true stories in the press. Unfortunately for her they refused to lie for her.

From today's DM. Jan Moir has such a way with words - "peaks of pique"

"With every new development from his Californian base camp, with each fresh initiative that finds him strapping on his trusty crampons of wrath to scale new-found peaks of pique, I worry about Harry. I really do. He's just so furious all the time!"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-8485159/Check-privilege-Harry-lecturing-McMansion-writes-JAN-MOIR.html

people.com/royals/prince-harry-removes-hrh-from-travalyst-website/