Harry and Meghan, more news!

[callmeadoctor]

New thread following on old one: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/3932323-Harry-and-Meghan-news?msgid=97617755

I think he talked about the death of his mother and mental health . I am sure I read that somewhere .

Cross post !

Harry definitely has spoken about his mental health and his mother’s death. I can’t imagine any child not struggling when a loved parent dies and I don’t think grief is always something people get over and move on from (no judgement to those who can and do).

sunbathingdragon

Yes, Charles and the other heads of states would definitely have more in depth experience, but H&M are not starting from the bottom here.

Also, are we now going to pretend MM had no interactions before H? She actually met Obama before H and if he thought she was an idiot, he would have surely distanced himself and MO from her ages ago.

And H himself has been meeting high profile individuals since forever.

Taken from a Forbes article of 7 Feb 2020:

The speech was, apparently, very heart-on-his-sleeve Harry: Detailing, among other things, his own mental health problems, his years of psychotherapy, his grief at his mother's death, and his withdrawal from royal duties.

The big difficulty for them as/if they move away from ‘non-contested’ issues and into the more ‘contested’ arena is that they will automatically alienate large swathes of various populations. So, as they reveal their politics (which is what adopting a particular perspective means), they will become more controversial. If they want to avoid that, they will only really be able to discuss so-called ‘neutral’ issues. If they opt for ‘a perspective’, then they are probably in for a rough ride.

The big problem about the public speaking is that there won't be any large gatherings, such as corporate events that would hire speakers for a long time to come. My dh works for a multi national and they've been told no face to face meetings until January at the earliest. I can't imagine when big companies or organisations will feel comfortable to plan these events.

Guy Martin was not at the event, he does not even have 'palace sources'. Seriously, he knows nothing about what happened, what the speech was etc.

I remember one of those night show hosts asking A Rod for details, got absolutely nothing - not that ARod himself would confirm or deny he was even there.

www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2020/02/07/the-dinner-speeches-heres-how-prince-harrys-new-financial-independence-from-the-crown-will-be-won/#10a142596805

I agree there won’t be the sorts of events that want them to speak for a long time. We had an event we were organising for jan 2021 ( annual meeting for a very large international company, with various events, speakers, dinners, entertainment etc) and it has been cancelled and will miss a year. I’m exepectjng most similar events will also not go ahead as even when things settle down people won’t want to mix with 100s and 1000s of people from a number of different crountries around the world.

What? No more TED talks for years to come?

www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/guymartin/2020/02/07/the-dinner-speeches-heres-how-prince-harrys-new-financial-independence-from-the-crown-will-be-won/amp/

In terms of the $1 million fee, that's has been plucked out of the air. The newspapers have slowly been increasing their apparent fee.

It can be very lucrative though:
Al Gore - $100,000
Condoleeza Rice - $150,000
George W. Bush - $150,000 and $200,000

Tony Blair - $200,000
Alan Greenspan and Arnold Schwarzenegger - $250,000 each
Bill Clinton - $260,000
Ben Bernanke - $200,000 and $400,000
Barack Obama - $400-600K
Donald Trump - $1.5 million*

*Donald earned a staggering $1.5 million per speech at The Learning Annex’s ‘real estate wealth expos’ in 2006 and 2007,” according to Forbes. “Trump appeared at 17 seminars and collected this fee for each one.”

Attached - BBC stars 2018 appearance fees (speeches, hosting of small awards shows, etc)

Haha I'm just imagining listening to Trumpy for longer than 1minute 30 seconds (my current toleration level).
My brain would shrink to the size of a small baked bean

@Mummy195

sunbathingdragon

Yes, Charles and the other heads of states would definitely have more in depth experience, but H&M are not starting from the bottom here.

Also, are we now going to pretend MM had no interactions before H? She actually met Obama before H and if he thought she was an idiot, he would have surely distanced himself and MO from her ages ago.

And H himself has been meeting high profile individuals since forever.

In all honesty, no matter how much some people like to pretend otherwise, Meghan was a relative unknown before Harry. When their relationship was first known Meghan was either the most of close to the most googled person and that’s because the vast majority of people had never heard of her and had no idea who she was.

It’s great that she has met other people and has other things to bring to her future from that time but again, those meetings probably weren’t memorable to many of those who met her as she would have been one of a number of people instead of being a global and well known star.

Harry has been meeting high profile individuals all of his life but it’s only been in recent years as a working senior member of the RF that it would have been in more dept.

@MissEliza

The big problem about the public speaking is that there won't be any large gatherings, such as corporate events that would hire speakers for a long time to come. My dh works for a multi national and they've been told no face to face meetings until January at the earliest. I can't imagine when big companies or organisations will feel comfortable to plan these events.

I really can’t imagine they will be back again by January. I suspect some corporate events will never go back to the way they were.

H himself has been meeting high profile individuals since forever

This is true, but I'm not sure that turning up as the "token royal", briefed in order to ask a couple of intelligent questions, is quite the same as having a deep understanding of the issues ... even if you're surrounded by sycophants who insist how wonderful you were and how impressed everyone was

@SunbathingDragon I said 'face to face' meetings, which is very different to large events. It's possible normal meetings won't even have resumed by then. Companies will be reluctant to stick their employees on airplanes to travel across the world.

[quote MissEliza]@SunbathingDragon I said 'face to face' meetings, which is very different to large events. It's possible normal meetings won't even have resumed by then. Companies will be reluctant to stick their employees on airplanes to travel across the world.[/quote]
Yes you did, hence my reply.

The $1 million figure is for tours. Both Obamas did tours. Both Clintons did tours. Oprah does tours. HaM could never generate the interest any of the foregoing did. They are not going to sell out 20,000 seat venues across the United States and Canada. In fact, on the last tour the Clintons did jointly (2018), they had trouble filling venues.

The comparison of Harry to world leaders is laughable. Harry is a barely educated. He's never had the responsibility of making policies that will affect the lives of tens of millions, or had to make life and death decisions, as have Obama, Bush, Clinton, or Blair. Anything he would say would be of no more value than what anyone on this forum would say.

Anything he would say would be of no more value than what anyone on this forum would say

Now you're being ridiculous!

Why do you have such a low opinion of posters here?

I would hazard a guess there are plenty of very accomplished and interesting women here, who weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouths, didn't have teachers ensuring they (barely) passed exams, and entered universities/post secondary schools on their merits, rather than their station of birth.

They would also probably know that Belrus is landlocked, and that penguins don't live at the North Pole.

Sorry for the poor grammar above. I'm multi tasking.

Thing is, if they talk about for example the environment or mental health services, they are going to end up implicitly or explicitly criticising government policies. This is not a good look for Harry.

Harry has zero credibility on environmental issues, given his use of private jets.