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Harry and Meghan news

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callmeadoctor · 08/06/2020 09:29

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1292590/meghan-markle-prince-harry-la-career-plans-latest-royal-news

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Roussette · 09/06/2020 07:56

Interesting.

I think it is more positive than negative, depending on what you think about the famous person maybe. There are ways of helping a charity that would have little negativity, maybe like Camilla and Osteoporosis Society.

And all the celebs supporting Alzheimers Society, no doubt because they have been touched by it in their family.

Personally I wouldn't be put off by any famous person supporting a particular charity because at least they are doing something. There will be many that don't do anything. A breaking point for me would be them getting paid for it...

(but absolve other organisations such as governments from having to do anything about it so there is an important issue right there)
Agree

SunbathingDragon · 09/06/2020 09:37

@Viviennemary

I absolutely agree that Beatrice and Eugenie can't be in any way held responsible for their fathers behaviour. I'd be happy to see them take on royal duties. They will know the ropes and what is expected. I didn't used to like them that much but I think they would do well now they are more mature and hopefully have given up wearing ridiculous hats!
I agree and since they use the title ‘Princess’ it perhaps makes them sound more royal to some people than eg Lady Louise, who is equally entitled to the title but doesn’t use it.

I’m not sure how much work Harry and Meghan did for the RF. Harry only became a full time working member in recent years and seemed to mainly support the military, whereas Meghan had only just joined. I wonder whether they still hadn’t really found their causes to support before making the decision to leave, and as a result there isn’t much for others to cover at the moment. That time will come when HMQ is no longer here and perhaps Charles, Anne and maybe Edward and Sophie aren’t young enough to continue working to the same extent they have.

I know Charles wanted a slimmed down monarchy but if Harry and Meghan don’t return and being up Archie privately (and any other child they may have), it means the entire responsibility could end up falling on William, Kate and their three children. The fact that seems so unrealistic, is what makes me think Beatrice and Eugenie could have a greater role in the future.

As a side note, I’ve come around to their hats. I recall Beatrice selling one to raise money for charity which was a kind gesture.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 09/06/2020 10:59

As a side note, I’ve come around to their hats. I recall Beatrice selling one to raise money for charity which was a kind gesture.

I think it was the hat she got so much stick for at William and Kate's wedding. I thought it was a brilliant and very funny thing to do.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/06/2020 11:14

I cannot see B&E being more prominent in the RF. Not in a million years. Unfair on them, (sins of their father etc) but given PA is the lead story on BBC News this morning, I would have thought it was near impossible for many years yet

I totally agree with this. It is unfair on them, but with so much dirt swirling around their ghastly father he'd always be the "spectre at the feast"

The RF always protect their image, even if they have to lie and twist to do so, and they won't risk Andrew publicly muscling in on any prominent folk his daughters would have to meet

BlueTreeBlue · 09/06/2020 21:30

It’s a shame about the York “girls” as they do seem lovely and would know what the gig is all about.
H & M returning would be a bit like getting together with your ex, things aren’t always greener on the other side but at the same time the break-up did happen for a reason 🤣 they would have to accept the hierarchy and many other things which they don’t want to.
I’m curious to see what they make of their future. Mainly because I just don’t see what they have to offer. They aren’t royal anymore and she was never a famous actress. If they want to being attention to charitable causes that is great but how will they make money from that? You can’t really be a professional charity person in the way they want to be. You do actually have to put the work in. Especially to maintain the lifestyle they seem to want, it costs a lot of money. I just don’t get where the money will come from, will they take it from the charities’ incomes? They don’t have enough money to be philanthropists. All those charitable roles at the level they want are taken up by people who have done amazing, brilliant feats or who have massive pulling power due to their main job (the celebrities we were talking about). So its either the specialist knowledge/ experience about their chosen topics which they don’t have or the massive pulling power which Meghan didn’t have before she was royal and doesn’t have anymore. Harry doesn’t have it either and furthermore he lacks the charisma that Meghan does have some of.

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SunbathingDragon · 10/06/2020 10:33

I think both COVID and BLM will hurt them massively- not just them but the entire royal family.

I’m not sure. I suspect they will just keep on going and whilst they can bring good publicity to charities and make money for them, there will be a demand for what they do. Even in many countries that have done away with royal families, they are still there and still have their Prince/Princess titles but not publicly funded.

It’s the public funding that I think annoys so many and I mean that for all of the royal family.

Viviennemary · 10/06/2020 10:50

I think the corona virus has hit their plans massively. More or less halted them completely. It's interesting that the Royal Sussex Instagram is still there but they don't update it. I read they wanted to carry over all their followers to a new account but instagram said no because that was their policy and they wouldn't be making an exception.

Froq · 10/06/2020 11:01

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FruitPastillesaregood · 10/06/2020 11:02

I really wouldn’t care what they do as long as they are not taking tax payers money. Or lecturing everyone on how to live whilst not following their own advice. I don’t care a jot where they live or what they do otherwise.

Wolfgirrl · 10/06/2020 11:03

The British Royal Family is the very definition of White Privilege - we bow to them and pay for them because their ancestors won wars and brutally obtained power. Who wants this anymore?

This in spades. This is the moment that historical institutions are being studied for their links to slavery/oppression, and thus whether they deserve their place in the modern world. I can't see how anyone can defend the foundations the RF is built upon.

FruitPastillesaregood · 10/06/2020 11:06

Light water

Totally agree as well. I bet the RF are quaking in their boots.

TheNavigator · 10/06/2020 11:18

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Froq · 10/06/2020 11:24

I don't think she's been thanked or acknowledged by the school for that speech either, as apparently she had not been invited to give it.

Really? How bizarre.

Roussette · 10/06/2020 11:50

She had been invited to give it as far as I understand. It's her alma mater. How could she gatecrash an online graduation ceremony? Happy to be corrected if I have that wrong.

What matter is... the students loved it, and were moved by her address, and it was widely well received.

TheNavigator · 10/06/2020 11:58

I don't think she's been thanked or acknowledged by the school for that speech either, as apparently she had not been invited to give it. I can definitely see parallels with Melania Trump.

On what basis do you think that? Do you have any evidence at all for that assertion or is it just wild speculation on your part?

It was a very appropriate and well received speech and I would be very surprised if her former school was not appreciative of it. If they did not thank her, that actually reflects worse on them, but it seems highly unlikely to me.

Roussette · 10/06/2020 12:19

The whole graduation ceremony was online for obvious reasons. To think she just jumped in with a speech without knowledge of the actual school (that she went to and has close ties with) is preposterous.

Probably one of the more bizarre criticisms I have read about her.

There has not been one mention anywhere that she was not invited to speak at the graduation ceremony. I have read however that it was a surprise that had been planned for the students and maybe that's where the confusion comes from.

Froq · 10/06/2020 12:41

To think she just jumped in with a speech without knowledge of the actual school

That’s not what the poster said.

There has not been one mention anywhere that she was not invited to speak at the graduation ceremony.

Nor have I seen any mention of her being invited to speak at the ceremony.

Like you say, that could be because it was a surprise. We have no idea.

Froq · 10/06/2020 12:43

Are posts being deleted for mentioning blind gossip?

Roussette · 10/06/2020 12:57

That’s not what the poster said

She said 'she had not been invited to give it'.
That insinuates she was unwelcome and chose to give it without their blessing.

Does anyone actually see invites of all the things the royals attend or give speeches about? If Princess Anne is giving a speech, do we actually view the email inviting her to give a speech?
No.
Nor do we with Meghan.

Roussette · 10/06/2020 13:00

We have no idea

Exactly. Which is why saying that she hasn't been thanked and she wasn't invited to do it is not fact.

I imagine - because the school has a close relationship with MM being her alma mater - it was discussed between them as a surprise to the students.
My take on it. Not fact of course.

callmeadoctor · 10/06/2020 13:02

Im frustrated by them tbh, I loved the fact that Meghan was a breath of fresh air for the royals, I loved the fab four. It could have been amazing to have them all around. I am still hopeful that they will have a change of heart (particularly if/ when queen dies (sorry)). But I worry that too much has gone on now and Meghan will never want to come back to the uk..........

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Froq · 10/06/2020 13:06

Does anyone actually see invites of all the things the royals attend or give speeches about?

Usually the organisation with publicly thank them and/or be the ones to share the details. I think it’s the lack of public thanks and acknowledgment from the school that has created the rumour. There might be other reasons that I’m not aware of though.

Which is why saying that she hasn't been thanked and she wasn't invited to do it is not fact.

Agreed.

Roussette · 10/06/2020 13:09

I have no idea. But don't think it's anything dodgy.

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