Harry and Meghan News ( Finding Freedom!)

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twitter.com/i/web/status/1261788333577056257 This is so funny if anybody fancies a giggle, royals eye rolling!!!

Kate comes from the U.K. where the upper circles are very closed ranks and everyone knows thier place in the hierarchy. Everyone knows how to play the game.
Meghan however is from the US where the upper circles are celebrity and everyone stabs everyone else
In the back the first chance they get in order to move up and take thier place. I don’t think she realised that she wouldn’t be able to do that within the royal family. Once she realised she cut her losses and went back to America .

I wonder exactly why she went back. She certainly made the most of the perks and I expect that sort of thing meant a great.

Deal to her

Kate's a lot tougher than people think

Faced with a bunch of Windsors she'd need to be, and having waited so long for William I wouldn't expect her to be the sort to chuck the towel in for little reason

She's also got the strong family background which William lacks, and the RF would have a hell of a job painting her as some flaky nutcase if it all went wrong

I may not respect the RF but I respect others' choices - she's made hers, given it her all and fair play to her for a job well done

If this was the Middle Ages, MM would have plotted to poison the queen, PC would have had a dreadful hunting accident and PW would have died off at war so H&M could have had the throne

I wonder exactly why she went back

Viviennemary remember going back was never Plan A. The two of them told us exactly what they actually intended on their website. That was stepping down from some of the (presumably dull bits) of the Senior Royal stuff, but still being around for the fun stuff - I guess the State Visits, the prestigious patronages and the movie premieres, the big family church appearances - and then splitting their time between the UK and US and being free to make their own money. That does sound like a pretty good deal as far as Meghan was concerned - all the upside and the glamour, all the couture clothes, doubtless as part of paid partnerships, loads of photos of her looking stunning and polished to instagram, and no need to make nice to old people and call their bingo numbers. I don't think what they've ended up with would remotely have been what she planned at the outset, but presumably she and Harry are now having to make the best of it. Part of that will be trying to spin the story to convince the world that this is what they wanted all along.

Yes I think there is a lot of truth in what you've said Serenster. But this q year trial puzzles nd a bit. Did the courtiers say let them try it for a year and they'll be back. Do they even want them back. I know I don't. And what is the point of Archie, cute though he is, retaining his place in the line of succession when presumably he'll be brought up in America and won't have a clue about royal life.

Oh for an edit button.

I think something happened at the dress fitting. Don’t know what, but I think something happened. Probably MM being a diva.

If this was the Middle Ages, MM would have plotted to poison the queen, PC would have had a dreadful hunting accident and PW would have died off at war so H&M could have had the throne

If this was the Middle Ages there would be some fresh heads at the Tower of London.

What got me was her bleating on about fairness. When they have had millions of pounds of public money in spite of having millions of their own. What's fair about that.

I get the impression she has very “me, me, me” and immature definition of fairness.
Again uttering that sentence where she was at the time is just ridiculous.

Channel 5 have a programme on tonight - I think its called something like 'Harry and Meghan - Two Troubled Years'.

I actually like Kate. I think she's done a really good job, she clearly loves her childen, she's forging her own path without treading on anyone else's toes. And behind the lovely manners, nice personality, good looks I think there's a core of absolute steel. She reminds me of my youngest - pretty, sweet and gentle. But step over her boundaries and that's it.

Which are good qualities IMO, and for someone in Kate's position, totally necessary.

At the dress fitting MM could have understandably been feeling very stressed and overwhelmed at organizing an enormous Royal wedding where she was the star. Catherine had recently given birth. Both could have had been feeling emotionally vulnerable, distracted and not at their best. It's not hard to imagine a misunderstanding or people ending in tears. They didn't know each other and were trying to understand each other culturally.

I am married to a Californian and our wedding was in London. I remember how overwhelmed by culture shock his family was. Sometimes they couldn't even understand what people were saying to them because they were so unused to our accents! They would be smiling but their eyes would be glazed over .

There was an incident before the wedding where Katherine pulled up Meghan for berating members of her team at Kensington Palace.

I don't think that it was a culture clash. It was Meghan's attitude.

@womanlywiles was it a bit like when Ross and Emily got married in Friends?

Faced with a bunch of Windsors she'd need to be

I agree that Kate, for all her apparent gentleness, must have a backbone of steel. What would it have been like to slot in to William’s family? Slotting into my ILs was pretty gruelling, and that was without the constant press attention. The intimidating teas with granny, endless dinners with the whole family, the protocol, the smiling, the chitchat, the fear of making the wrong move, wearing the wrong thing or accidentally leaving a ceremony in front of the wrong person, all with the entire world looking on. I think the older I get the more I can appreciate that love only goes so far, the life she chose - and has made a success of - came at a price. Maybe Kate is also driven by a sense of duty and/or a genuine appreciation for the position she finds herself in.

What do you mean?

what a ridiculous fantasy thread. Get a life.

Why are you here then?

Ah, it's time for those posts to come around again.

Yup, time for intelligent and informed convo to retire.