A positive thread on Harry and Meghan (aka Thread 5)

[Mummy195]

A continuation for those who would like to look at the positive side of Harry and Meghan.

Exactly!

This is a royal wedding we are talking about. It would be inconceivable that someone would be invited without a proper written invitation (probably with a royal crest on it).

I know that is what I was thinking but then usually it is the brides family that sends out the invitations. I know that this wasn't the case here but perhaps slightly more complicated.

I would certainly have wanted the posh invitation to keep

Did he get an invitation or not? If he didn't he wasn't invited. What other conclusion could you come to. Lost in the post.

Being a very sad soul I googled to find out about the invitations. For W&H the invitations were sent out by the Royal Chamberlain on behalf of HMQ. For H&M the invitations were sent out from the Prince of Wales. I suppose the difference has to do with the line of succession etc but not sure exactly why that should make that kind of difference.

Well you would really think that the PoW (father of the groom) or someone in his office would notice if the father of the bride had inadvertently been left off the invitation list.

Then why didn't he get an invitation. Or is he lying about it and he did get one. Something isn't right.

For less important royal functions the invitation is accompanied by a form that has to be completed for security reasons. Along with a whole lot of information about where and when to arrive, etc etc.
I would have thought such security documentation would be even more intensely detailed for a royal wedding. Not something that you'd overlook in the mail really.

So! what do we all think about Mr Omid Scobie and his book? Do we feel he is a good friend to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, or not?

It's all too murky to give any kind of thoughts on the book. It was meant to be their side of the story and a chance to put us all right on what really happened. . Now they're saying it was nothing to do with them. Why didn't they say that months ago.

I don't know why they would say it now though?

@meercat23 I think part of the issue is that W and K’s wedding was a state occasion with foreign dignatories, ambassadors, heads of state being invited etc W&K did not have complete control of the guest list . Harry and Megan’s wedding was essentially a private occasion which was televised .

They are saying now that they didn’t cooperate with the book because it’s not flattering to them. Wait for the legal battle if they think it’s not truthful! They obviously thought it would be supportive but clearly the journalists haven’t found much to support in the story so far. It should have been Finding Freedom with a huge ????. They are cooped up and Harry has no friends and little connection to family and the military. Meghan thought she gave up everything but I think it’s Harry.

I can just imagine Philip’s phone conversation with them this morning. And I doubt he’d care about the time difference.

Peaseblossom Ah yes, you are right. The state occasion wedding is another example of the hierarchy within the family.

My0my. I am wondering if the authors, and their informants whoever they are, do think the book is supportive. If that is the case they are going to be less than happy at the way things are being perceived by commentators.

I meant to add that, while so far we are only getting selected extracts and the whole book might give a different picture, so far it seems to me to be even less supportive than the Lady Colin Campbell book.

So! what do we all think about Mr Omid Scobie and his book?

Leaving aside the execrable writing, it strikes me as little more than a rehash of every red top tale there's ever been - some of it accurate no doubt, and some the product of fevered imaginations

Since nobody seems able to tell us who Scobie actually IS I'm left wondering if he's had any access at all, or if his claims of being around H&M simply mean he's hung around the margins taking teen-style pics of his phone, trainers and designer dog for the Insta page, while hoping for a few snippets to make a quick buck from

Stories have been run for months about how they were keen for this book to be published asap to tell 'their side of the story'. So either

• they were misled about the book's content
• they misjudged how people would react to the content
• those reports were false and the ones now emerging about them having no connection with it whatsoever are true. In which case, odd they didn't say that earlier, surely?

Totally agree @ButteryPuffin

Awful stance from MNHQ

Since nobody seems able to tell us who Scobie actually IS

We may not know who Scobie is but I think there are clues as to who the book's sources might be. Every single outlet has made sure to mention that all 'facts' in the book have been confirmed by at least two sources...

Sounds like a fair summary, Buttery - it's also why I prefer to look at what H&M actually say and do rather than what some self-serving weirdo claims.
I don't mind reputable biographers like Robert Lacey et al, but draw the line at types like Scobie, Lady Colin and anyone who once had a column in a rag and thinks they know it all

That said, the book's undoubtably damaging in terms of its fallout, but I'm not sure why folk keep saying H&M will feel they've been done over? Given the whining they've actually done, surely a book detailing endless grievances would be expected to suit them just fine?

Ok, so my comment above (didn't break Talk guidelines) about the plane crash thread has been deleted, as has the thread itself - but with no mention of it being any reasons of taste or unpleasantness. All about 'having a single thread' apparently. The message I get from that is clear.

Where there’s a will there’s a way.

There is a lot of support for MM out there, as in more support for Meghan than for Harry.

Can’t believe you were deleted for expressing disgust at that thread puffin. I’m glad it’s gone.