Meghan and Harry Debacle part 2

[RosesandIris]

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Has anyone seen that Lady Colin Campbell has written a book on Harry and Meghan using insider information. Apparently she’s has members of the Markle family to stay. She’s brave!

She’s alienated quite a few people - they both have. In my mind if you do that, you generally aren’t as smart as you think you are. Sometimes it’s smarter to observe, take notes, go with the flow & change things organically over time.

She comes across as very pushy and a complete phoney. Whether that's true or not it's how she come across. And so full of herself and her own importance. I bet Princess Anne and her don't see eye to eye. And yes she was absolutely pandered to as a child. Her father had no time for the other two once she came along. I can believe that. All very sad.

Meghan is definitely very pushy and self promoting. But those are essential characteristics in order to “thrive“ (pun intended) in the TV/film industry.

In aristocratic circles however, it is cringeworthy to be so blatantly striving.

IMO Harry and Meghan are like any other couple from drastically different backgrounds and the cracks are showing.

Harry has always seemed quite awed by her. I think it baffles and enrages him that not everyone feels the same way. I agree with others that they don’t seem to have much in common.

I think she overplayed her philanthropy and activism when they met in order to impress him and he probably sold the royal family to her as a vehicle for her to continue that. They both certainly gave the impression with their early interviews, “lots of work to do”, “hit the ground running”, that they thought they would be actively solving the world’s problems. Neither of them seem to understand that their job was mostly to nod politely and smile when they met the people who are actually doing that work.

Apologies for the absolutely awful link... but, is there any truth in this?
If so then they aren't exactly doing themselves many favours at the moment.

www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/irresponsible-meghan-markle-slammed-visiting-22035135.amp

Meghan Markle spent Mother's Day in Los Angeles with Doria Ragland
mol.im/a/8323811

Same story here. As reported in Oprah Magazine so I'd expect it to be true.

Speechless.

It’s entitlement, assuming they are breaking the state’s quarantine rules.

Here, we are entitled to visit family although it’s not encouraged. Other provinces are different.

Have to say, in @BarcelonaFreddie’s link, the photo of MM & Archie is beautiful. He is a cute and happy baby. Nevertheless, were I showing off my baby (I post that as a positive, as all mothers love to show off their babies), I’d have him dressed in something cute, rather than a diaper and plain t-shirt.

If it's permitted where they live, then fine.

But it'll play badly here, because we are not allowed tojust visit your family (unless you are their career, cleaner or estate agent)

That MM went against the stay at home order isn’t all too surprising as she has a rebellious and entitled nature. It is actually worrying that PH did the same and brought Archie. This is anti royal and antiestablishment.

As for why he doesn’t have any friends. This is hardly surprising. LAers don’t strike me as having the disposition to be in the military. I would have thought there to be a fundamental dichotomy between the two. Yet here he is with what appears to be chemically straightened hair morphing into a metro sexual. Perhaps he will find his people yet.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=XjtCqh2ECyk

I found this video of Meghan really interesting. It was filmed in 1999, she must have been 17 years old. It shows a bit of her life in LA. She was on her way to audition for a Shakira videoclip.
It’s all about the shops on Rodeo Drive, the fees she would receive from filming the videoclip, etc. They also make fun of a guy wearing a “fanny pack” which is mean girls but at that age I suppose it is normal.

I wonder if there is a chance that the utter culture clash (American “doer” vs. British tradition) in combination with the woke attitude caused a fallout. But that Harry perceived the fallout to be due to racism...?

It would explain a lot of his reactions I think.

Watching the childhood videos of M with her DDad, gave me the impression she was very pandered to. And while she seems hardworking and driven as an adult, her expectation of getting what she wants, when she wants it, seems to have remained.

Good morning, all. Been thinking about the above (well, it's either that or Covid). How has she managed to get to nearly 40 without having a few knocks that will have made her attenuate and tone down the more difficult traits? While parents may pander and praise, the rest of the world does not. Hubris, arrogance, entitlement and self-love are knocked out of us by our late teens/early twenties. It's puzzling that she obviously didn't come across people or situations that 'put her in her place' but which then went on to shape her into somebody more mature, professional and reasonable, as happens to the rest of us (not royals or Kardashians, obviously) won't mention the several examples of this that happened to me but taught me some excellent life lessons that have stood me in good stead since

I watched the video.

At the beginning, she said something about “Here’s me, classy girl and her plate holder” then pans towards the side of the car and whispers “yeh, the ex boyfriend got that for me”.

Does that mean her ex bought the car for her??

MoreHippo
I thought the racism was more to do with the comments from the public than the articles themselves. The fact that the press didn’t remove the ability to comment on articles about her and removed racist comments must have been incredibly hurtful.

But in answer to your question, yes, I think the culture clash combined with wokeness was immense. She’s a pushy person and probably has missed a whole bunch of subtle cues as well as refusing to take direction and flaunting advice.

Barleylemon
She probably did come across such people. But perhaps saw any criticism of her as fault in them, not her. This is possibly why she appears to have no long-standing friends. There are definitely people like this irl. Horrendously pandered to by her parents.

Going back to earlier comments on how her older siblings were dropped when Meghan came along. This has got me wondering if this was exclusively her father’s doing: whether he is just a weak and fickle man, who has created a golden child and what if any role his ex wife and Doria played in this dynamic.

I completely struggle with her still calling herself a feminist when her actions are not. She's too busy wanting to be Princess M

The narcissist site has some good articles on MM and why she can’t/won’t change.

Winterlife - I think that was a deliberate move on their part not to dress Archie in "something cute" as that would have deflected from the point of the video which was reading a story. People would have been commenting on his outfit and where it was from.

I hope you're wrong Mamamia456. It doesn't bode well if his mother didn't dress him - on his first birthday! - in case it deflects attention from whatever else she's doing.

If the point was not to deflect from the story, Archie shouldn’t have been in the video at all.

I think it’s a stretch to suggest people are so distracted by a cute outfit, they wouldn’t be capable of following the story.

Ethelmay - The point of the video was to read a story for Save the Children and for people to make a donation, not to discuss Archie's "cute outfit". Nothing to do with deflecting attention from MM. Why do people even need to question what he was wearing. It's just constant nit picking.

I found the dangerous driving alone in that video quite hard to watch....how many times did she take both hands off the steering wheel?! Aside from that, she just came across as entirely vacuous and very immature for her age. More like a 15 year old than someone going to college.

i think she's still very immature. That's part of the problem.

very immature for her age.

More excellent feminist credentials here 🙄

m.youtube.com/watch?v=pFKleWOhehs

Mamamia
People question what he was wearing because it is not normal to broadcast images of your child in a soggy nappy and what amounts to underwear all over the world.

This is far from nitpicking. It’s basic respect for your child imo.