Kate and William - what are they doing? Thread 2

[Pelleas]

A continuation of the thread discussing the Cambridges' contribution to the pandemic.

Do you always have trouble with bar charts? More women than men support the monarchy. The lowest level of support is in 18-24 year olds and it’s still 57%. Overall support is 70%. Obviously facts are a massive hindrance when you want your prejudice confirmed.

Maresydoats "The RF is dead now"

Are you sure? Only the Queen's addressing the nation this Friday, VE day.

Charles arranged for five million measles-rubella vaccinations for children in the Philippines

As with "he supports" and "he founded", it really is incredible how willing folk are to accept this nonsense. Nobody denies that the organisations do a lot of good, but exactly how much does anyone think Charles has to do with them beyond an annual dinner, an occasional self-congratulatory stunt and a few spider letters urging them to do what they're doing anyway?

On brighter news, it's good to see how far down he is on that list of "liked" royals. As others have said, perhaps the greatest service the Queen can offer the monarchy now is to go right on living

Yes - Charles won't have done any of the actual work involved in making these things happen.

"Prince Charles was in India when Haiyan hit the Philippines last November 8. Following the news of the storm's effects, he went to the Serum Institute in Pune on November 10 to solicit donations to help the Philippines."

Sounds good doesn't it Clavinova? To read the spin you'd almost think he hot footed it to the Pune Institute when the storm arrived, desperate to help, when actually he'd been scheduled to go there right from the start and could easily have dug deep into his own pockets instead of soliciting money among some very disadvantaged folk

Still, as long as they can burnish his rather tattered image, I guess that's all that really matters ...

Still, as long as they can burnish his rather tattered image

Must be working - he keeps winning achievement awards.

Awards - in all spheres of awards, very few mean anything.

Corporate awards = who has put together the best presentation.
Newspaper awards = what will make the most interesting story
Literary/film awards = who is the best at log-rolling
Awards given to the Royals = which award-giver is hoping to brown-nose their way onto the honours list

Pelleas - Are you the same when your children win awards, what about the Pride of Britain awards, are they meaningless too?

I am a childfree zone, so can't answer your first question.

Pride of Britain - again, it's more about who gets nominated than anything else. This is really straying into a different topic but I'm not sure why people need awards for things they do - the respect/admiration/gratitude they receive should be an end in itself - a piece of paper or a medal is pretty meaningless.

the respect/admiration/gratitude they receive should be an end in itself - a piece of paper or a medal is pretty meaningless. Bloody hell. Let's get rid of the Nobel prizes as well then. You seem to be a fun free zone.

the respect/admiration/gratitude they receive should be an end in itself

And an award is a way of expressing that.

Pelleas - Wow, what about Olympic medals, do you think they're meaningless?

what about Olympic medals, do you think they're meaningless?

Olympic medals are a measurement of prowess in a specified discipline - the important thing is that the winner is the fastest or best at what they do. The medal is a memento, the achievement is key. No one is nominated for them and they're not awarded subjectively - you could have the moral compass of a dissipated cockroach and still be the fastest rower or strongest weightlifter.

Let's get rid of the Nobel prizes as well then.

Yes, let's - they're meaningless. What counts is the winners' achievements, not what prizes they receive.

You seem to be a fun free zone.

I don't really see where fun comes into it. The awards that have been mentioned so far take themselves pretty seriously.

Yes, it might be fun for someone to receive 'Child of Courage' (say) at the Pride of Britain awards, and I don't doubt all the winners are worth and admirable - but they've won an award because someone has nominated them for it - ergo the winners all have at least one supportive and sane person in their lives.

There will be hundreds of people who are just as worthy, who have no such person around to recognise and support them - and arguably their achievements are even greater in view of that, but they will never be recognised.

So what are these specific world beating talents of prince Charles’s then?

So what are these specific world beating talents of prince Charles’s then?

And the response is ... tumbleweed

I suggest a scientific experiment. Give me his share of the wodge and we’ll see if I make a better philanthropist than him. I suspect I would, I have useful skills and qualifications.

I'm back! As for the 'awards' with he royals they're basically ceremonial.

The royalists on here are still missing the point when we ask, what do they do?

All of their so-called 'achievements' are off the backs of others. They're 'encouraging', they're 'supporting', they're 'founding' (or even soliciting in the Philippines post ) but never actually doing, themselves, any of the work that the charity is about.

That donkey work is left to the peasants who receive little recognition.

So on our royal watch this week, Kate has made a 10 minute video call to one woman on a maternity ward. Anything else to add anyone? Did I miss something?

Wolfgirrl - Harry and Meghan made a lovely video for Archie's 1st birthday and don't forget the Queen's speech tonight at 9pm, I know you won't want to miss that 😄

You must have missed the news. Harry and Meghan aren't royal any more. You can't claim them for your side.

Yup - Harry and Meghan can no longer be said to be carrying out Royal Duties. They're brand-building now.

The Queen must be exhausted - two five-minute speeches within six weeks! And barely six months until she'll need to be thinking about her Christmas broadcast!

Harry and Meghan aren't royal any more

Meghan never was and Harry always will be.

It’s nonsense to say charity workers don’t get recognition. They’re awarded a whole range of honours, from MBE upwards, they’re invited to Royal garden parties and given special treatment on a variety of Royal occasions.

And before the sneering about that starts, those things mean a lot to the recipients and that’s what matters.

Shewranglesrugrats - Harry is still a Prince and stiil 6th in line to the throne and Archie 7th in line.

Harry is still technically a Prince but it's been explicitly said he will no longer be performing engagements under Royal auspices.