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The royal family

Kate and William - what are they doing? Thread 2

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Pelleas · 23/04/2020 16:19

A continuation of the thread discussing the Cambridges' contribution to the pandemic.

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Mamamia456 · 04/05/2020 15:01

Wolfgirrl - I laughed at your suggestion of Kate batch cooking, but I don't think any of us said anything about judging the royals if they did venture outside.

You sound more and more headmistress like with each post. You'll be handing out detentions next.

maresydoats · 04/05/2020 15:07

Ironic isn't it that none of them have been missed at all. Wonder what the heck they actually did all along anyway. Miaow.

Am reading the book "And what do you do?" by Norman Baker. An eye opener re the RF. But that's lockdown for you!

Wolfgirrl · 04/05/2020 15:41

@Alsohuman how is a personal insult pointing out the flaw in my logic?

Alsohuman · 04/05/2020 15:52

Which personal insult? I tend to be quite punctilious about not using those, did one inadvertently slip through?

Wolfgirrl · 04/05/2020 16:01

Something about me being rude to shop assistants?

Alsohuman · 04/05/2020 16:03

That wasn’t a personal insult and I didn’t mention rudeness. It was an analogy to your assertion that you employ the royal family.

Pelleas · 04/05/2020 16:44

It doesnt happen often but the possjbility/threat is ever-present. That is a type of accountability that must be hard to live with.

As you said - yes and no. It's can only be hard to live with if the Royals have inflated and unrealistic ideas about their entitlement (in material terms). In this day and age, and in this country, there is no chance of a revolution resulting in them being guillotined - all that could happen would be the removal of their status, their right to enjoy publicly owned property and assets, and their ongoing funding. Take all that away and they would still remain immensely wealthy members of the aristocracy, with no need to work in the sense that the man in the street would define work.

I think it's fairer to say that rather than being their employers, we are the Royals' customers but short of emigrating we have no option to take our business elsewhere, and no customer service centre to listen to any complaints we might have or give us a refund for Andrew.

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maresydoats · 04/05/2020 18:58

The RF is finished.

They know it, we know it, but they will continue on regardless. This pandemic has shown them up for what they do NOT do imo.

BarleylemonPenguin · 04/05/2020 19:06

Pelleas and Mare - I agree with you both to an extent. It’s difficult to stomach unearned privilege of this magnitude (Pelleas) and the level of skiing is shocking (Mare). However - when you compare us to other countries, we are reasonably stable, reasonably wealthy, reasonably meritocratic. Do the royals play a role in this? Probably. Are they worth the expenditure? I don’t know.

BarleylemonPenguin · 04/05/2020 19:08

That, of course, should be skiving, and not skiing, although both are equally applicable when talking about the royals.

Pelleas · 04/05/2020 19:17

the level of skiing is shocking

That made me Grin.

I would agree with you, BarleylemonPenguin, to the extent that some of our past Royalty have taken an active part in ensuring the country's stability. I struggle to imagine that they are still needed given how nominal the role of head of state is, or that they've really done anything worthwhile in the last 300 or so years.

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Clavinova · 04/05/2020 19:25

The RF is finished.
They know it, we know it, but they will continue on regardless.

Prince Charles was named as "Londoner of the Decade" only three years ago;

"The Prince of Wales was named “Londoner of the Decade” at the Evening Standard’s Progress 1000 party honouring the capital’s innovators."

"The Prince was given the special award at the Science Museum in recognition of his pioneering campaigning, promoting what is good about London, Britain and its people."

"Charles was also recognised for his tireless charity work since setting up the Prince’s Trust 40 years ago to help young people."

www.standard.co.uk/news/the1000/the-progress-1000-prince-charles-named-londoner-of-the-decade-at-evening-standard-bash-a3339516.html

Pelleas · 04/05/2020 19:32

London newspaper honours someone from London in a country where the media, and indeed, the government's per capita funding, is heavily London-centric.

If he'd been given an award by 'The Yorkshireman' I might be more impressed!

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Clavinova · 04/05/2020 19:36

For all his numerous faults, Prince Andrew did have a very successful career in the navy spanning 20 years.

Going back to yesterday's theme;

"He joined carrier-based squadron, 820 Naval Air Squadron, serving aboard the aircraft carrier, HMS Invincible. Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands, a British overseas territory claimed by Argentina, on 2 April 1982, leading to the Falklands War. Invincible was one of the two operational aircraft carriers available at the time, and, as such, was to play a major role in the Royal Navy task force assembled to sail south to retake the islands."

"Prince Andrew's place on board and the possibility of the Queen's son being killed in action made the British government apprehensive, and the cabinet desired that Prince Andrew be moved to a desk job for the duration of the conflict.The Queen, though, insisted that her son be allowed to remain with his ship. Prince Andrew remained on board Invincible to serve as a Sea King helicopter co-pilot, flying on missions that included anti-submarine warfare and anti-surface warfare, Exocet missile decoy, casualty evacuation, transport, and search and air rescue."

"At the end of the war, Invincible returned to Portsmouth, where the Queen and Prince Philip joined other families of the crew in welcoming the vessel home"...
"Commander Nigel Ward's memoir, Sea Harrier Over the Falklands, described Prince Andrew as "an excellent pilot and a very promising officer."

Clavinova · 04/05/2020 19:42

"The impending Royal Wedding of Kate Middleton and HRH Prince William will introduce a strong Yorkshire bloodline into the Royal Family once again at the highest level." Grin

www.theguardian.com/leeds/2010/nov/17/royal-wedding-will-introduce-strong-yorkshire-bloodline-into-palace

maresydoats · 04/05/2020 19:42

Clavinova,

That is all pure Bullshit. Charlie couldn't give a damn about any of us at the end of the day. All about image IMV.

But I will reiterate, the RF has lost a lot of respect. And most people know why also.

Pelleas · 04/05/2020 19:46

Yes, he did, but it's only remembered because he's a prince and people are desperate to endow him with redeeming features to justify the money that's been wasted on him since then. Anyone else who'd come out of the Navy after a similar career and then done ( in the most optimistic assessment ) nothing but gad about extravagantly since, would soon lose all respect from everyone. Their naval earnings would have long since run dry, too.

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Clavinova · 04/05/2020 19:48

Charlie couldn't give a damn about any of us at the end of the day. All about image IMV.

On the contrary, out of all the royals I would say that Prince Charles is the least conscious of image.

Pelleas · 04/05/2020 19:51

Kate Middleton and HRH Prince William will introduce a strong Yorkshire bloodline into the Royal Family

There is nothing wrong with the Middletons - they founded a business that was successful before Kate ever became involved with William. Yes, they were able to cash in heavily on the connection, and but they were essentially self-made before that.

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Pelleas · 04/05/2020 19:52

^ stray 'and' for some reason.

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maresydoats · 04/05/2020 19:57

Clavinova,

They don't care about any of us, that's why I don't care about any of them. They really don't give a hoot. Just keep the money pit going and all is well with a wave or two. Right so.

Clavinova · 04/05/2020 19:59

GQ's Men of the Year Awards 2018;

Prince Charles wins "Lifetime Achievement Award for Services to philanthropy."

www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/prince-charles-gq-awards-speech-300936/

maresydoats · 04/05/2020 20:02

Clavinova, you seem a tad obsessed with these parasites. But off you go and live in your little Royal Bubble!

They are just not representative of the vast majority of people. And that will show up sooner or later.

Clavinova · 04/05/2020 20:10

But off you go and live in your little Royal Bubble!

Quite a few people in the Royal Bubble with me!

"His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales is the recipient of The GCC Global Leader of Change Award, 2017, for his outstanding contribution to global environmental preservation and protection and for his passionate vision for a better future for humanity."

eco-age.com/news/gcc-global-leaders-change-hrh-prince-charles

maresydoats · 04/05/2020 20:12

The RF will never have to rely on furlough payments. Or be redundant, or work in the NHS with scanty PPE. Will they?

Her Maj is locked down, and I bet she is fine with that. No one can visit her especially her errant son. Oh my word. We can forgive them everything because they are Royal, but they are the same as the rest of us in the end.

We are paying for these people to live a life of luxury. Remember that when you are struggling in the Pandemic yourselves.