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Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 4

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Mummy195 · 20/04/2020 12:08

Hope you don't mind Dave.

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Notmyrealname855 · 21/04/2020 12:57

But I agree most tabloid articles are trash. Think the DM won’t settle MM’s case, it wants more headlines. Sadly H&M look trapped either way

artemisalways · 21/04/2020 13:08

I wonder if MM still talking to her 5 friends.

AutumnCrow · 21/04/2020 13:11

The 'five friends' story is quite extraordinary, particularly the idea that they gave interviews behind MM's back. Or have I read that wrong?

HawthornLantern · 21/04/2020 14:04

The FT does cover some Royal Family issues, but if you want to stay abreast of such news, then the FT is not the outlet to choose because it is pretty sparse.

Where H&M confuse me, now I stop to think of it, is why they are involved with The Royal Rota at all. The Rota was designed to facilitate information on official engagements and official affairs. As H&M are no longer serving senior Royals, then presumably they have to work out their press relationship entirely separately from the Rota.

From that perspective what they may be attempting (I think clumsily) to do is to set up their own rota to indicate who will be their primary contacts , or perhaps, to be more precise, who will not.

As private individuals that is presumably their prerogative. But I found an article in Town and Country Magazine that discusses the issue and highlights the related question raised by the National Union of Journalists on whether it is appropriate for journalists only to be allowed to report on H&M if they have a Royal seal of approval.

And that is the point where, frustrated by H&M as I have been of late, I think they are in a tricky situation. If they are not serving Royals, then there is a strong argument that they should not be part of the Rota. But public interest being as it is, is it acceptable that a significant couple in the family gets to choose who does and does not report on them?

FWIW I think this does come back largely to the funding issue. If H&M receive public funding then opting out of the Rota should be a no-go. If they are privately funded, then who/how/how often/in what manner they conduct their relationship with the press, for good or ill, should be their choice.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a30480923/prince-harry-megahn-markle-royal-rota-system/

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 15:20

I dont understand how anyone can defend Meghans behaviour as part of the BRF? The extortionate spending on designer clothes (not British), the private jets, the fawning over A-list celebrities, those awful Wimbledon photos where she insisted nobody sit near her, the petty refusal to disclose details around Archie's birth despite being happy for the public to fund her multi million pound wedding and house renovations.

I dont think she is the worst of the worst, and a lot of the comments towards her are just unnecessarily spiteful. But she has brought a lot of the criticism on herself, she is her own worst enemy really.

Cerseirys · 21/04/2020 15:29

They ALL spend extortionate amounts on clothes! And Meghan isn't the first royal to get close to celebs - Diana did it in the 80s and William and Kate had plenty of celebs at their wedding.

I don't know why people keep repeating that she insisted no one sit next to her at Wimbledon. She was in the members' enclosure - members of the public wouldn't have been able to sit there anyway.

As for Frogmore House, that was earmarked for renovation even before Meghan and Harry moved in and came from the Sovereign Grant, which comes from the Crown Estate revenue rather than the public purse. That doesn't necessarily make it right but it's what the royals have been doing for years.

BarleylemonPenguin · 21/04/2020 15:30

I dont think she is the worst of the worst,

Who is? I don't have an opinion either way on this - just curious.

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 15:33

@Cerseirys

Comparing her behaviour to others doesnt make it right.

I find it an enormous coincidence the entire members box was virtually empty at such a popular match, dont you?

Do you not understand the Crown Estate revenue IS the public purse? It is a public administration which deals with the royals' funding from the estate land (which is owned by the public).

Cerseirys · 21/04/2020 15:38

I wasn't trying to say her behaviour was right but I'm not sure why she's always singled out for doing things that countless other royals have.

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 15:53

@Cerseirys

I think it grates that she has never worked a single day in the UK or paid a penny of tax here, yet has been flown over to live a life of splendour at the expense of the British public. And rather than showing gratitude or humbleness, she seems to have been determined to squeeze out every last drop of designer clothes and celebrity connections that she can. She has done very little in the way of 'boring' engagements and an awful lot of film premieres, Vogue, high profile sports matches and glittery awards ceremonies. She basically shows the public that fund her lifestyle zero respect.

Samcro · 21/04/2020 15:55

funny Kate has never worked either. I really wish this thread had kept its positive spin. there are countless threads that are slating her. could we not have one that doesn't rip her apart? or is that too much to ask.

artemisalways · 21/04/2020 15:57

Any word on who the Markle 5 are ? Will they be called to give evidence ?

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 15:58

@samcro

I know all of the above could by applied to any of the royals! I'm a strong republican and frankly could do away with the lot. But I can see how Meghans blatantness in pursuing her own interests at the public's expense has offended the royal's supporters.

I'm not trying to derail the thread, I'm genuinely quite curious as to what is actually good about her. And how the behaviour above can be challenged/defended.

Cerseirys · 21/04/2020 15:59

I don't particularly care what country she's worked in - Duchess of Cambridge has barely worked a day in the UK either! Her cookbook with the Hubb kitchen and Smartworks clothing collection were not glitzy celeb projects. Both were very successful too - the Hubb can now keep their kitchen open 5 days a week and Smartworks got enough clothing to last their service users a year. Even the admittedly naff and much derided writing on bananas resulted in that charity getting more donations than ever before.

Samcro · 21/04/2020 16:03

there are about 2 threads in this topic and 1 in Aibu and one in the hidden topic. all slating her. I am sure they would be happy to answer .
asking what is good about her? odd

MissHoskins · 21/04/2020 16:07

The revenue of the Daily Mail is £1.9 billion. I don't think that they're "going down" anytime soon.

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 16:12

@Cerseirys

Like I said before, comparing her behaviour to others doesnt justify it. This thread is specifically about Meghan and Harry. There is another MN thread where I have posted my opinion on Kate and Wills.

The hub kitchen and Smartworks are pretty light and enjoyable as far as engagements go. She enjoys cooking and fashion, and to my mind shes only visited both places once. Unless I am wrong? If they are the most arduous work she has undertaken then I'm not impressed.

Aside from this, I just cant take anyone seriously who says they care about the poorest in society yet splurges thousands of pounds of their tax money on a dress.

I think Meghan is subject to more scrutiny than Kate as she does more virtue signalling that she doesnt feel compelled to follow herself, for example the private jets.

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 16:13

@samcro

Why is it odd to ask what Meghan has done that is worthy of support? Surely this is the very thread that can answer.

EthelMayFergus · 21/04/2020 16:15

I know that The Times isn't one of the papers they have refused to work with, but has anyone read the 'Megxit, 100 days, are you missing them?' It's quite amusing, but probably best not to read the comments by the public if you are a supporter of H & M.

I hope they wish HMQ a happy birthday today.

Samcro · 21/04/2020 16:17

I find it hard to fathom the hate. i see people who have actually spent time trawling the internet to find something to use against her. people who will rip her apart for random things like how she holds her baby and flicks her coat, or she smiles too much. holds his hand......the list is endless.
having seen what bulling can do to a person I will support her, I don't think she deserves this.
I have been shocked that a parenting sit allows it.
but if your happy to join in with it that is your choice. but these threads were set up for the people who did not want to do this.
that is my answer

derxa · 21/04/2020 16:20

people who will rip her apart for random things like how she holds her baby and flicks her coat, or she smiles too much. holds his hand......the list is endless. These things are trivial and way down the list of things that people are annoyed about.

EthelMayFergus · 21/04/2020 16:20

I read The Times every day, so I hope the accusation of 'trawling the internet to find something to use against her' wasn't aimed at me.

Trump is also a parent, I've seen much much worse on here about him.

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 16:21

@samcro

I didnt criticise her for any of those things.

She was a publicly funded figure. I asked what she has done that was worthy of the investment. Surely that isnt 'hating'? If you support her, I'm sure you have a brilliant answer for me.

Samcro · 21/04/2020 16:23

i have answered.

Wolfgirrl · 21/04/2020 16:25

Where? You've said I am odd, Kate has never worked and that people pick her apart over small things. But you havent answered why she was worth the millions of pounds of public investment.

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