Does anyone want a thread for people who are happy for Harry and Meghan? Thread 4

[Mummy195]

Hope you don't mind Dave.

Do not understand why those that can't stand the couple, who want to paint them in the worst light possible don't let off steam on the 'hidden' thread.

I don’t think there are many of us who “can’t stand them” here. There are a few of us who are more interested than fan girl.

I personally think they’re ballsing it up a bit again on the media relations front, but that majority opinion, and pretty mild. It’s certainly nowhere near your level of nastiness about P Margaret.

I don’t imagine there is a secret thread anywhere for those critiquing the Sussex media strategy, and I CBA to find it if there were.

This is the appropriate board on which to discuss anything to do with the RF.

there have been royals before who have been far worse and not slated like these two are.

Awful in different ways. H&M would perhaps have got away with more if they'd just shut the fuck up (as, in fact Andrew has now finally done, although time will tell if that tactic has worked for him).
But they can't shut up - they need the media to help fund (indirectly) their future plans.

if they'd just shut the fuck up (as, in fact Andrew has now finally done,

Finally being the operative word, eh?

What a car crash that was, and -again - caused (well exacerbated really) by a royal not taking PR advice.

I personally think they’re ballsing it up a bit again on the media relations front, but that majority opinion, and pretty mild. It’s certainly nowhere near your level of nastiness about P Margaret

Good one! I am not directing my comments at you personally. I am talking in general. There is nothing absolutely nothing I have said about Margaret that could even begin to match what has been said about MM on SM and indeed on the countless threads on here. Many posts deleted, I reported some. Far far worse.

I wonder how many of those alleging that commentary about Meghan has been worse than anything ever before are old enough to remember what Sarah Ferguson went through. It was APPALLING - and that was in the days before social media, therefore making comparisons meaningless. If Fergie's time was now, or Meghan's time was then, it might be easier to compare.
But SF would have been SLAUGHTERED even more, today. And Meghan would have got away with less comment then.

I'm not a legal eagle, but I thought that anyone bringing a court case against someone else could withdraw it at any time if they wanted. Settling out of court is different as both sides have to agree to it. The Mail on Sunday haven't done that as they presumably think they will get enough out of going to court not to give in and settle. However the Sussexes could walk away with no settlement if they just changed their minds about the whole thing, so they are presumably set on going ahead now. Happy to be corrected if anyone can show the actual legal position.

I'm definitely old enough to remember what happened to Sarah Ferguson. If I remember correctly she was horribly bashed by the media.

I am happy still that Harry and Meghan have escaped. All any of this proves is that it does not matter what they do it will be criticized.

On one of the 'hidden' threads, these 'happy' threads were being criticized for being boring.

For me, there is nothing more predictable and boring than the constant criticism of this couple. It's like the online equivalent of root canal - long, dull and painful.

I'm not sure it's that hidden as it appeared in Active threads a while ago! Oh well, best leave them all to it.

The abuse Fergie got was pretty appalling but I don't think two wrongs make a right. And of course it's always the women who marry into the royal family who get it - where are all the reads discussing the shortcomings of Mike, Jack or Edo?

*threads, not reads

Absolutely Cerseirys.

The tabloids and their readers would've spontaneously combusted if William and Harry had taken after the Norwegian and Swedish princes - one married a single mother and the other a former glamour model!

😂

Cerseirys Is that the glamour model/Swedish princess that is now volunteering at a hospital to support the healthcare workers?

No one is suggesting that two wrongs should make a right, but my post was in response to the oft-spouted idea that Meghan gets worse abuse than anyone in the history of the royal family. My point was that Fergie had a terrible time.

Fergus did indeed have a terrible time. As does Meghan.

And I don't want to add to the criticism which is why I'm on this thread.

@Tezza1 Yes, that's Princess Sofia. But in Sweden the press don't seem to care about her past (and rightly so) - if it was someone here then you'd never hear the end of it!

@Cerseirys, Princess Sofia had the most dreadful time from the press initially. She is a former glamour model, she was a reality show contestant and she has tattoos.

In addition, Prince Carl Philip was dating this upper class girl before, Emma, who he was seeing for about 10 years and who was beloved by the royal family and one of the closest friends of his younger sister Madeleine. I cannot stress enough the abuse Sofia initially got from the press.

Yes, Sofia is currently volunteering in a hospital in Stockholm.

Ah ok, Swedish friends had told me that no one in Sweden cared about her past but maybe they were only referring to themselves!

The Swedish press has been kinder to the crown princess’ husband, Prince Daniel, who used to be a personal trainer. But this may be because a) he has done an incredible amount of work trying to be supportive in his role b) a lot of people credit him with helping the crown princess recover from a quite severe eating disorder (anorexia). That mitigated any initial feelings about suitability. They also just seem to be very happy together.

Nobody cares about her past now - and I doubt many below 60 did then. I was referring to the tabloids.

Cersei Apparently Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway had a dreadful reception when they married partially because of who her son's father was.

However, she persevered and is now incredibly popular.

@Tezza1, I remember that (showing my age). They had a tv interview and Mette-Marit was telling people that not only was she a single mother, but her ex husband was a convicted drug dealer.

For everyone thinking that other royals got an easy time, that was not really the case for Mette-Marit either....

Oh and on “undeserved tabloid hounding”, the younger Swedish princess Madeleine was engaged to another man before she met her current husband. He cheated on her and it was splashed all over the tabloids. With details emerging over the days and him “saying he was sorry” if I remember correctly. She was absolutely devastated, almost had a break down and left for the US for a few months to get away from the press chasing her. That was perfectly horrid.

I have just realised why I missed that Meghan was badly treated by the press. I posted on the happy thread, but in summary.

The Swedish crown princess had an eating disorder (press tried to be nice, but posted pictures, commented etc until they genuinely jeopardised her life). She then married a personal trainer - he was nicely treated as many believe he helped her recover.

Younger Swedish princess got enhanced. Then her fiancé cheated on her. They were dragged through the tabloids, she almost had a break down and left the country. Absolutely horrid.

Swedish prince married Sofia, a glamour model (and former reality contestant) after breaking up with his nice upper class girlfriend whom he had dated for 10 years and was best friends with his sister. That went down well (not!!). She is now volunteering in a hospital due to Covid 19 and generally loved.

Norwegian crown prince married single mother whose ex husband (baby daddy) was a convicted drug dealer. That did not go down that well either.

And that is before all fake news about non existent pregnancies by people the princesses never met.

I guess I didn’t realise that Meghan was as badly treated...