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Why is Harry talking?

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botanicalart · 19/04/2020 17:49

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8234071/Row-Prince-Harry-claims-UKs-coronavirus-crisis-better-led-believe.html

Is there something seriously wrong with him?

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catinb0oots · 22/04/2020 10:26

The Vanity Fair article before they were even engaged was very telling. I bet there were alarm bells ringing all over the palace.

CallmeAngelina · 22/04/2020 10:33

I do remember Ann Widdecombe and Lady Colin Campbell expressing reservations quite early on, and they were rounded on for it.

isitspringyet · 22/04/2020 10:37

It was the little secret hints on her Twig thing about spooning bananas which screamed she wanted the world to know about her quickly followed by Harrys statement to press pleading for privacy that made me think what an odd relationship with two polar opposites one who craves spotlight one who hates it (or appears to hate certain scrutiny?) baffled by them tbh

KaronAVyrus · 22/04/2020 10:45

I really liked Meghan until the South Africa tour and their interview with Tom Bradby and I just thought ODFOD.

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HebeMumsnet · 22/04/2020 10:52

Morning, everyone. We've had to delete a few posts that seemed like pure speculation on this thread. While these are two people very much in the public eye, so discussion about them is fine, we think we have to draw the line at wild speculation on people's mental health.

If we have to delete too many post like this - or just too many posts that seem really mean and not in the spirit of the site - we may have to delete the whole thread.

YgritteSnow · 22/04/2020 11:03

I don't believe any of the stuff about her being abusive tbh. I can imagine maybe she overstepped when addressing staff through being unsure of protocol or maybe getting stressed and/or tantrummy and being very direct, to the point of rudeness but I just don't believe the tea throwing and aggression etc. I think she probably followed Harry's lead in that tbh because I agree with the earlier post that Harry - The Affable and Jolly Prince, is a careful construct and I suspect he's pretty belligerent and resentful IRL. He probably encouraged her strenuously to not stand for any nonsense and be the same as him. I think it's become very apparent over the last few months that it's not All Meghan who is the problem here.

CrazyTimesAreOccurring · 22/04/2020 11:14

Looking at the texts posted in the DM yesterday I actually had a lot of sympathy for H and M pre wedding (much to my own surprise!)
It seemd like they really tried hard with her dad and he just wasnt responding. The DMail even had to put 'Thomas Markle didnt respond as feeling hurt' or similar words to make a point. No, if I was getting married I would rightly expect my dad to reply, and if my child was and I was ill I would be responding to their texts! Allegedly from the DMail he didnt even answer their calls, and they are on his side so i expect that it true.
It seems like TM is a very selfish man, and in THAT instance I cant see how H and M could have done more.

YgritteSnow · 22/04/2020 11:18

Today's DM headline. The gloves are off...

Why is Harry talking?
Viviennemary · 22/04/2020 11:28

I don't think they did try very hard with her Dad. Harry has never met him. Maybe he was too worried about his carbon footprint to make the journey.Hmm And Thomas Markle did not receive an official invitation to the wedding. Doria Ragland did. Nor did he receive an official engagement scroll that was sent to her mother.

TimeLady · 22/04/2020 11:29

It seemd like they really tried hard with her dad and he just wasnt responding.

He hadn't met the groom but was expected to fly halfway round the world to play a bit part on TV in front of millions for the biggest performance of her career? I got pretty pissed off at certain things expected of me when my DD got married; I can see why he might have been thoroughly pissed off with the pair of them by then too.

MissEliza · 22/04/2020 11:43

Honestly the way they behaved towards Thomas Markle before the wedding was unbelievable. I got married abroad as I was working there. My parents arrived two weeks early in order to help with preparations and acclimatise. They'd already visited in order to meet my in laws. That's what normal people do. Thomas Markle wasn't even in a normal situation. He needed even more time to feel comfortable. It's almost like Meghan wanted him to back out.

LetTheCabbagesDie · 22/04/2020 11:43

I can believe that she is dismissive and rude to staff, but struggle to believe anything beyond that.

YgritteSnow · 22/04/2020 11:48

It's almost like Meghan wanted him to back out.

I think she absolutely did. I think she was embarrassed by him. I am not judging her for that tbh. He didn't come across particularly well in the programme he made. I don't think he wanted to be there either though. A royal wedding with millions watching. Nightmare! My Mum would probably have found a way not to come to and I wouldn't have judged her for it.

CrazyTimesAreOccurring · 22/04/2020 11:48

He hadn't met the groom but was expected to fly halfway round the world to play a bit part on TV in front of millions for the biggest performance of her career?

Yes, because that is what parents should do. Keep your mouth shut and smile at the wedding. Obvs things were different as he was ill. But if he didnt answer the phone to her, that is awful.

I am not defending their behaviour since, such an entitled couple. But in this, I think they tried.

TimeLady · 22/04/2020 11:57

Yes, because that is what parents should do.

Rubbish. Parents are perfectly entitled to refuse to become doormats when their children overstep the mark - whatever their age.

Harry not being introduced to his future father in law was a huge - HUGE - mistake. I'm frankly flabbergasted that H didn't insist on it himself.

CallmeAngelina · 22/04/2020 12:15

I don't think we will ever have the full story on this one (and why should we, to be honest). Texts don't tell the whole picture and family relationships are extremely complex and rarely understood by outsiders. That is particularly going to be the case here, when the majority of observers are going to be looking to find fault.

derxa · 22/04/2020 12:21

Harry not being introduced to his future father in law was a huge - HUGE - mistake. I'm frankly flabbergasted that H didn't insist on it himself. Yes I can never get over this. What did Meghan tell Harry about her father before they got married?

LetTheCabbagesDie · 22/04/2020 12:21

I'm frankly flabbergasted that H didn't insist on it himself.

I'm surprised the Advisers to the RF didn't insist on it... or was he already ignoring them?

MissEliza · 22/04/2020 12:39

My mum would probably found a way not to come. Mine too!

TimeLady · 22/04/2020 12:40

Let's see if Samantha turns up as a DM witness. I'm sue she'll be happy to put the record straight. Wink

Al1Langdownthecleghole · 22/04/2020 12:55

I can imagine maybe she overstepped when addressing staff through being unsure of protocol or maybe getting stressed and/or tantrummy and being very direct, to the point of rudeness but I just don't believe the tea throwing and aggression etc.

I don't think you need to understand royal protocol to treat people well and be polite.

bluebell34567 · 22/04/2020 12:57

MM didnt want H to meet TM i think. maybe she was scared H will give up if he met TM, TM would blurt out some weird stuff about her and the wedding wouldnt go ahead.
i think she was threading on a tight rope at that point if everything would fall apart.
we dont know what she told about TM to H, i dont think they were nice things.
she would definitely not want H to meet SM.
see, KM didnt have such worries. she didnt have any problem with anyone.

EthelMayFergus · 22/04/2020 13:09

I don't think you need to understand royal protocol to treat people well and be polite Yes, it comes up often on the relationship board to judge your date on how well he treats the waiting staff.

Was Thomas M actually invited to the wedding or not? As in, did he receive an official invitation as Doria did? There's evidence of how highly she though of her dad a year before her engagement, to go from that to not introducing your fiance so quickly just seems really odd. I also think she was embarrassed by him.

Viviennemary · 22/04/2020 13:12

She also told him he wouldn't be allowed to make a speech. She said there wouldn't be time. I am convinced he wasn't wanted.

Lordfrontpaw · 22/04/2020 13:17

If I was getting married and my betrothed either advised me not to meet their family or refused to et me anywhere near them - I'd be very suspicious (or have been told terrible things about them).