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Archewell to replace Sussex Royal

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Luc1nda · 07/04/2020 08:57

--www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/07/harry-and-meghan-to-launch-new-charitable-outfit--

I am really not sure about this. They "felt compelled" to share how the name came about and to announce their new venture but they're not releasing details because they want the focus to remain on the Covid crisis?

This is a mess. Full of contradiction. I finally admit that they have lost their way.

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1forsorrow · 07/04/2020 13:25

I thought they left to live in Canada, did that change to Los Angeles? I'm not keeping up.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 07/04/2020 13:37

Grin not sure what I like better - Hedge fund or Nuclear Power Station.

kirinm · 07/04/2020 13:40

So the actual story is, they're setting up something or other, it got leaked to the Telegraph and they commented to say this isn't for now, we are concentrating on coronavirus but because someone's leaked it we have to say something because you'll abuse us if we don't but of course, also abuse us if we do.

FannyCann · 07/04/2020 13:41

Archewell reminds me of Arkwright stores in Open All Hours.
Poor Archie being named after their putative foundation. Why the hell couldn't they just choose a name they liked?

PrivateEye · 07/04/2020 13:54

Their next baby could be called Rosamund.

Charitable foundation would be Roswell, the Area 51 of philanthropy. Here there be dragons.

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 07/04/2020 13:55

And bottomless pockets filled with the cash of gullible twits.

5LeafPenguin · 07/04/2020 14:06

I'm really confused about the bit where the Telegraph chased them down with a threat to leak the name, and then they gave them an interview..that seems unlikely enough.

Then a statement appears saying 'the Telegraph made us do this because of public patent filing' and clarifying what was in the Telegraph anyway ( if people were that interested).

Weird. Why didn't they just clam up and let the Telegraph print the patents stuff without comment.

PrivateEye · 07/04/2020 14:07

You @CathyorClaire if it's based on the Greek for 'beginning' then it should be pronounced 'ark - ee - well', as in 'menarche' = 'menarkhe'.

They haven't transliterated it very well.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 07/04/2020 14:11

Like you, our focus is on supporting efforts to tackle the global Covid-19 pandemic
By doing what exactly? They really are insufferable pricks.

sunnie1992 · 07/04/2020 14:22

You know what, I've had a weird change of heart about Meghan over the last few weeks.

When they did their bombshell announcement in January I was (rather irrationally) livid. I felt that they wanted their cake and eat it, and it was ridiculous to think they could be semi royal, free to say what they want politically and yet use the royal status to give them a lifestyle of billionaires.

The more I look at it, the more I think that Meghan just made a big mistake.

She's approaching 40, and as people on here are so keen to point out, might have been running out of time to start a family. She is also at the wrong end of the age spectrum to be breaking into Hollywood.

Meeting Harry when she did must have felt like a stroke of pure golden luck.

He was royal, so would elevate her status to no end, she could carry on with the charitable work she seemed to like, she would have money and a lifestyle that very few people can achieve, even well known actors can't live like that.

They rushed into the marriage. I think anyone who gets married before having been together (and lived together) for at least 5 years, has no real idea what they are getting into.

I understand why, especially if they wanted a family. She was originally committed to becoming a senior royal, even when offered the chance to continue acting.

I think the reality doesn't really live up to the pictures you see in the paper. It's probably boring quite a bit of the time, and I bet there is a lot of background work before you rock up to an event.

From what I hear about all the royals, including Meghan and Harry, is that they seemed well informed when they appeared at charities and supporting their patronages.

That takes work, as they have a LOT of events to go to.

The press were not kind to her once the wedding took place. This is relatively standard for a royal bride, if you look at the coverage of Kate, Fergie and Camilla immediately after their weddings.

But I'll bet it hurts to see it. Meghan didn't have that level of fame before, so she won't have been as prepared for it as they may have thought.

I think the constraints of the royal family protocol was just too much for her - as it would be for me. I would hate to be married to any of them.

Then she gets pregnant. Now she has a problem.

Again, we see it time and time again on here where a woman has gotten married, moved to her husbands country and then had a baby. When the wheels come off, she is in a precarious position with regards to custody and returning to her home country.

Look at Autumn Phillips. I doubt that a court would have allowed her to go back to Canada with her daughters. They are older and therefore settled here, and like it or not, that fact that Peter Phillips is a member of the royal family will bear some weight.

So she is stuck here for the foreseeable, regardless of whether she would like to return to Canada.

I think Meghan panicked. The only way to ensure Archie would remain with her in America, should they split up, was to get there ASAP. Before Archie was olde enough to go to school and be considered settled in the UK.

I suspect that is why Archie did not come back to the UK in January or March. She may well be (quite rightly) worried that Harry might change his mind and want to stay. Once he's on UK soil, Harry could have applied to the court for an order to keep Archie here.

Given her application for British Citizenship, a court may well order that Archie remains in the UK. He was born here and is in line to the UK throne.

Her ONLY option was to persuade Harry to move to America with her and Archie. If they settle there, then that is Archie's home, and that is where he will remain, whatever happens to the marriage.

Look at Princess Haya, she had to wait for a legitimate reason to fly to the UK, before she could take refuge in London and issue a case in our High Court for custody of her children. If there had been no ill treatment of her and his older children, they likely would have been returned to Dubai.

As for the foundation - that is something that is unlikely to work outside of the royal family, for Meghan and Harry who do not have the wealth of Bill and Melinda Gates, nor the background and experience of the Obamas.

I think the foundation is to appease Harry, who really has nothing to do in LA. It provides him with something to do, and which he is familiar.

I'm sure she wants the A List lifestyle and money - and would like to re-enter the acting world. But I suspect this is more about getting Archie "home".

Might not have been on this thread, but I absolutely agree with the person who said they should have gone off to rural Wales in the beginning and had a slow entrance to the royal family. Flying helicopters would have been a great thing for Harry to do, given him purpose.

It appears they have ignored all PR advice, particularly in announcing this today. Again I have no evidence, but I suspect this is going to the extreme other end of the spectrum, having had a full communication team before, with whom they clearly did not agree.

Even if the papers got wind of the registration of the foundation, they could have just said nothing and everyone would have forgotten about it in a months time.

I also think they chose the moment in order to piggyback off the Queen's speech... oh look there's an announcement from the Queen's grandson... it keeps them relevant.

Yamayo · 07/04/2020 14:51

With all the emphasis on the Greek word, is it meant to be pronounced arke-well (like archetype)?
If so it sounds even worse.

Bottomline- stupid to pick a name that no-one can pronounce off the bat.

Yamayo · 07/04/2020 14:53

By the way a bit shitty to announce it on the day the PM is in intensive care.

Even if the Telegraph had announced it, it wouldn't have had the same impact than them pre-empting it and playing victim.

LawrenceMarlow · 07/04/2020 14:58

The timing worked for them.
They don’t play second fiddle to anyone anymore.

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/04/2020 15:02

The Telegraph piece is sourced directly to the Sussexes.

They did not have to comment at all, or they could do it after the publication (assuming the Telegraph got any part of it other than directly from the couple) with something along the lines of 'We regret that this part of our plans has been leaked. We confirm the name of our new venture, but shall not be making any further announcements during the pandemic'

Then they need to do something about their staff or friends. It's been one damned leak after another since late last year. That's utterly incompatible with wanting to step out of the glare of publicity

Wolfgirrl · 07/04/2020 15:14

Why were they 'compelled' to announce it? It's not exactly a controversial secret that was about to be 'outed' was it? Also, what does their charity intend to actually do?

I dont think either of them has what it takes to run a large corporation. I'm not saying that in a nasty way, but their entire working 'royal' life together has been one disaster after another - constantly chopping and changing their set up, allegedly falling out with people, PR shambles like their mismanagement of making announcements when Meghan was pregnant/giving birth, high turnover of staff. They were given constant opportunities to create a workable set up but it was like nothing suited them.

Their relationship reminds me of a couple within my family - glitzy fast courtship, huge wedding within a year, then when the excitement settled down it was like they realised they had nothing in common. They keep moving house, etc because they seem to think if they keep changing their lifestyle they will be 'happy' at last. They cant admit the problem is actually between them and the sense of unhappiness they always have comes from their relationship.

I'm a strong Republican but I feel very sad for Harry. His relationship with his brother seems to be damaged, he has moved halfway round the world and his passions have been taken away from him. I wonder if he thinks what could've been if he had married a suitable posh girl from the UK, they would probably be living the countryside dream next door to Kate and Wills, kids growing up together etc a tight family unit.

As for Meghan, she seems very materialistic if what is reported is true - the $$$ wardrobe, the eagerness to mix with A listers that wouldn't have given her the time of day before. She wanted fame and adoration here but instead she is notorious and vilified. The fairytale is basically over.

It is all quite sad really.

PrivateEye · 07/04/2020 15:18

I'm beginning to wonder what kind of 'leaks' they are.

RosesandIris · 07/04/2020 15:20

Another complete fail for them. Terrible timing, terrible name. They just won't shut up and go away.

LawrenceMarlow · 07/04/2020 15:25

His passions haven’t been taken away from him don’t be melodramatic.

Wolfgirrl · 07/04/2020 15:26

@LawrenceMarlow

Sorry why is that melodramatic?! Hasnt he lost a few of his positions due to leaving, etc?

BananaChocolateLump · 07/04/2020 15:27

They need to fuck off now, there's a global crisis no one cares about their shitty little brand.

LawrenceMarlow · 07/04/2020 15:35

He’s still got his royal patronages.
Invictus and the initiative beginning with S that he set up.

Wolfgirrl · 07/04/2020 15:36

@LawrenceMarlow I thought he lost the patronage?

InTheSummerhouse · 07/04/2020 15:46

So we should all celebrate the life of their kid while many struggle to feed their own, (lockdown has caused considerable financial hardship for a lot of people here - especially those reliant on FreeSMeals).

We should all adore their kid while trying to explain to ours why granny isn't here any more.

We should all adore them and "support" - ie "give money to" their charity in the name of their kid for the greater glory of them while they could buy and sell most people 100 times over, (and they still want more)

Wolfgirrl · 07/04/2020 15:57

@inthesummerhouse

That's the general idea of all the royals to be fair.

Waspie · 07/04/2020 16:09

First they want to collaborate with the Queen and now they feel compelled to release this piece of crap during a pandemic.

Whoever is advising them needs to be fired - literally shot. Horrific name; horrific timing; statements that are word salads of nothingness; horrific monetization of the child they allegedly wanted to keep out of the spotlight.

I expect the Queen is crying quietly in a corner wondering where she went so wrong.