Harry and Megs in LA

[RosesandIris]

Continuing on from the last thread.

I think those are the sort of things that would be reviewed at 1 year

A senior producer has given a very broad hint that NT wants a present and active patron, and that won’t be easy to achieve from LA.

But not will it be possible to show how this can work in normal circumstances during a pandemic. So how and when they review might need to be re-addressed

LOL @7Penguins.

I heard some gossip, through a friend, that the movie MM narrated had already been narrated by a high profile actor. His narration was dropped in favour of MM.

I don’t know if the gossip is accurate, but friend is well connected in those circles.

As one of the army friends that served with H said on telly, they are fine with criticism when it's due, but it's when it all moves to fiction that they are not happy with.

Sorry, catching up, but this caught my eye. This is also more or less what Meghan said, that she thought the media would be fair. The thing is, they seem to expect to be judge and jury over when criticism is due, which is never.

Of course they don't like invented stories, who would, but there are a lot of stories which, though exaggerated, contain a kernel of truth. Thus far we've been pretty good at picking out the wheat from considerable quantities of chaff, and predicting what has turned out to be their plan of action.

Good points @iVampire

There’s an argument for extension of the 12 month review period due to Covid

On the other hand, there’s an argument that the NT for example, after having to be shut for so long and losing the revenue of ticket sales, needs a patron who’s ready to rally the troops and get working once lockdown is over. (Which hopefully won’t last twelve months 😱)

If Meghan really found it all so awful, she should have given up her titles and her patronages and used Meghan Markle for the Disney voiceover. It's not like that name is unknown, it would still have had worldwide recognition.

Indeed, most actresses (and many other independent women of course) prefer to continue to use their own name after marriage. With the high Hollywood divorce rate they need to maintain their own status

@Winterlife is your friend Harry Markle?

Blog post saying narration was first done by an A list actor

I have to thank another poster, who I won’t name, for me finding that as I was curious as to what one of their internet tabs was and had a google.

Actually to be pedantic, when it comes to finding the above blog post, I have to thank another poster who commented on the first poster’s tabs. They know who they are

Dandy, lol, no, and I heard this some time ago. The actor allegedly is involved in an elephant charity.

Well we know it's not Martin Clunes

Excellent articles.

PC has no choice but to pay for their security. At the moment. I wonder whether William will feel the same. I’m not so sure. A lot will depend on post CV UK. And then we will have Brexit to deal with.

The economy will not look good for a long time. People will not be willing to pay for a self indulgent pair when not getting anything in return.

The Canadian article was a bit harsh, but it does make the good point that there were perfectly safe and isolated in Vancouver and such bad timing to move to California, with the final sting in the tail being that they have stated they will pay for their own security now - bit didn't in Canada?

This has all the hallmarks of the Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson desperately trying to find a role and home for themselves, although think there is more public sympathy for Harry.

But cannot quite understand why the move to Los Angeles? I grew up there and obviously the weather is better, but is getting to the stage that the grass is always greener, and predict they will stay there for a few months and find somewhere else. Arizona?

Good morning, everyone. I hope that everyone ill is steadily improving.

They are like a couple of toddlers who haven’t grown out of the idea that the world revolves around them
I feel that this is such an important aspect of the bolting. The whole point of royalty is that it does raise egocentric people. I am still baffled by why they ran off. They had people bowing and scraping, making them the centre of everything, telling them they are always right. Why leave it? It's not as if they suddenly matured and had an insight that they don't want the pandering anymore, as their subsequent actions indicate. They still want the pandering, so why leave it? Baffling, I tell you. Baffling.

But cannot quite understand why the move to Los Angeles? I grew up there and obviously the weather is better, but is getting to the stage that the grass is always greener, and predict they will stay there for a few months and find somewhere else

A journalist (I can't remember exactly where I read it) compiled a list of where they have lived so far before moving on. In less than two years, they have lived in Nottingham Cottage, the Oxfordshire place, Frogmore, Canada, LA...It brings it home when you see it compiled into a list.

See Barley I don’t find it baffling.

They wanted the pandering and complete freedom.

Meghan didn’t want to be constrained. She didn’t want to follow protocol.

They want to make money and they genuinely believe they have star power - and I agree with them that together they did have charisma and glamour and modernity, but only within the confines of the RF. They’ve blown it rather and now they’re competing with the A-list who’s stock in trade is charisma and glamour. The RF have had their fame and prestige bestowed upon them, they haven’t had to work for it.

They saw themselves as more popular and forward-thinking and resented being constantly reminded that there’s a hierarchy and rules and a duty to do.

It’s clear from all the commentary since, especially that by Meghan’s Omid Scobie, that they genuinely thought they’d get their way with the half-in and half-out deal and that they could swan off to be HMQ’s North American collaborators.

So do we have no idea who the original voice was for Elephant?

Presumably @Winterlife knows as their friend told them?

There are going to be a lot of 'resting' actors, A list or otherwise, in the next few months as the film industry grinds to a halt, so competition for future voice overs might be fierce.

I’ve just googled around, the two most prominent actors supporting elephant charities are Ed Norton and Leo DiCaprio. 🤔

Oh dear, oh dear! Apparently "sources" are trying to convince people that Harry and Disney CEO Bob Iger were only joking around when Harry pitched Meghan to him, you see it was a private joke haha!

ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2020032786982/prince-harry-disney-voiceover-request-meghan-markle-joke/

Seriously, anyone who watched that video can see how surprised and uncomfortable Bob Iger and his wife were when Harry pitched to him, and don't forget Beyonce's expression as she overheard it as well. Harry was definitely not joking, it was super awkward and he repeated his request seriously when Bob Iger initially tried to brush him off like he was joking.

It must have really pissed H&M off to have had their grifting get caught on video for them to try and spin it like this.

Dandy They must have known that (what you say). I am putting myself in their shoes and can't imagine thinking in the way that has transpired. As others have mentioned, it's just like giving up your job but still expecting to be paid and still receiving the perks that come wit that job. Who thinks like that? I don't know a single person in real life who thinks like that. That's acting more in line with absolute monarchy rather than a constitutional one.

Hello magazine seems to be the chosen conduit for pro Sussex stories.

Probably hoping to get first dibs on any Archie photos.

Dandy

and I agree with them that together they did have charisma and glamour and modernity, but only within the confines of the RF. They’ve blown it rather and now they’re competing with the A-list who’s stock in trade is charisma and glamour.

Exactly this.

A bit like Diana who started being more familiar and touchy-feely with people.
It worked brilliantly because she was the first.
People were so used to the RF being starchy and standing on protocol that they were blown away by this new evidence of warmth.
And it didn't hurt that she was extremely easy on the eye.

But where does it stop? Initially William and Harry were even more "like us" and married women that they loved, not just because they had a title etc
(Although, like Diana, it doesn't hurt that Kate & Meghan are also extremely easy on the eye).

However, at some point they have to stop being like us because that's the only point of them; we can get glamourous and rich people behaving like us without paying for their security or feeling thrilled when we're invited to "Call me by my first name".
Not now (or then, pre CV) when big stars like Tom Cruise were posing for selfies and ringing fans' relatives to surprise them.
And a lot of people like that have got talent so we can enjoy watching their films or listening to their music.
All HaM had/have is royal status.

And the Kardashians already exist.

The lockdown across most of the world is going to leave a bit of a legacy (in the short term at least) of thinking in terms of 'before' and 'after'. And their change of status is right in the middle of it.

They really can't do much during, other than issue supportive statements for the organisations for which they are patrons. This is an opportunity to show that role of patron can be done remotely.

It also gives them more time in the planning and preparation of what they do next.

Agreed that HAM only have star power (ugh!) when compared to say, the Wessexes.

Put them next to the Clooneys and it’s laughable, they are not in the same league.

The thing that stands out most about H&M’s PR is how amateurish it is.

Given that they employ a team of top professionals, you can only speculate whether they think they know best and choose not to listen to advice but, instead, give orders?

Meghan simply wasn’t a big enough star to have garnered the necessary experience it requires to pull the public’s strings successfully. Harry did have amazing affection as our favourite Royal but as he shows more of a spoilt tantrum throwing Prince than he ever did before, together they are a PR disaster.