Harry and Meghan what they’ll do next

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Let’s strive to keep on topic and not engage with posts designed to disrupt.

The BBC website is comparing his reception in Edinburgh today with his reception there two years ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-51645676

(scroll down a bit to the headline "It was all very different 2 years ago.")

A distinct lack of enthusiasm.

FFS Coming to Scotland of all places to call for less tourism.

Glad to see I'm not the only one to see parallels with the Tom/Katy scenario Lois.

I cannot shake off a feeling of intense misery today.

Unless I’ve totally misinterpreted what this initiative is all about, it’s not a case of calling for less tourism but more eco friendly tourism.

That’s true. But he does nothing at all to be eco friendly himself.

I resisted the urge to put that bit in inverted commas!

Do they not have PR people?
They should get some.

I cannot do links but there’s a new Daily Mail exclusive...Meghan and Harry are hard done by...according to a ‘friend’

FFS Coming to Scotland of all places to call for less tourism.

Very relevant in Edinburgh, like many beautiful cities (Barcelona, Venice etc) tourism is a real issue. There is a higher concentration of Air B&Bs in Edinburgh's Old Town than anywhere else in the UK. During the Fringe, performers can no longer find anywhere to stay. Tourism is a major industry for Scotland as a whole but a major problem for Edinburgh.

I cannot do links but there’s a new Daily Mail exclusive

Can I beg people, for all that is decent, not to click on Daily Mail 'exclusives'. And certainly not to give a second's credence to a single word written.

The Navigator the performers may not be able to find anywhere to stay but more importantly the locals are being forced out. Hogmanay was a prime example of the issues we are facing.

Very relevant in Edinburgh, like many beautiful cities (Barcelona, Venice etc) tourism is a real issue. There is a higher concentration of Air B&Bs in Edinburgh's Old Town than anywhere else in the UK. During the Fringe, performers can no longer find anywhere to stay. Tourism is a major industry for Scotland as a whole but a major problem for Edinburgh.
I know all that but many businesses around the country rely on tourism.

I know I'm about 6 months too late but I wondered this morning, as I battled the rain with heavy shopping bags and unsuitable shoes/jacket, feeling very sorry for myself and wishing my DH were home ready with a cuppa, who exactly was MM referring to in S Africa when she said nobody had asked her if she's okay? Where were her friends and family? Why weren't they asking her how she's doing? Her mum? Jessica Mulroney? Surely they checked up on her. So what else did she need? All I've needed throughout all the ups and downs of my life (and there have been plenty, some objectively very serious) is the love of my family, my DH and 2 or 3 close friends. I don't think I'm alone. Who was MM referring to?

I should think that from the moment they announced their engagement, life probably sped up x100 for her. So much to do; so much information about/around her every day; so much to manage; if she's the type to care what other people think (ahem) wondering what people are saying; being pregnant and moving country; being in the papers; joining the RF. It was a lot. Anybody would struggle with all that.

What on earth possessed her to think she could take all that on, hitting the ground running, with apparently nobody to ask if she's ok, and come out of it happy and succeeding?? I'd venture a lack of self-awareness, or else breathtaking levels of arrogance. Newly appointed CEOs of the world's biggest employers - people responsible for hundreds of thousands of employees, hundreds of millions if not billions of pounds of revenue, global brands etc etc - take at least a year to bed in, getting to know their companies from the inside out.

I don’t think he got the warm reception he was hoping or aiming for and suspect it was testing the waters about how well received they are here at the moment. I doubt Meghan will go to Beatrice’s wedding assuming, of course, that she is even invited.

Another SussexRoyal IG post after travelyst
www.instagram.com/p/B9CbHDTpMYf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Not a fan of the DM, but also not a fan of being told what I can or can’t read so I’m going to read it now whilst I put the DS1’s pizza in the oven.

derxa

FFS Coming to Scotland of all places to call for less tourism.

Having read the bits on BBC news on the speech, important points have been raised. I have seen for myself the damage and effects of mass tourism and increasing waves of large tourist groups.

I wonder if there’ll be any pap walks in the woods now that H is in the UK.

I’ve only read the IG guff which tells you nothing of any use about Travalyst’s aims. What are they planning in actually doing? Anything particularly innovative?

Yes, the way to avoid ending up in an echo chamber is to read widely across lots of sources, not tell people to keep narrowly to certain ones. We can all make our own minds up, thanks.

7salmonswimming makes good points; I imagine that MeAgain being American expected quick results.

I don’t think he got the warm reception he was hoping or aiming for and suspect it was testing the waters about how well received they are here at the moment.

He did a low key visit, wasn't harrassed by paps and was warmly received at the event. I would say he got exactly the reception he was hoping for when he made the decision to step back.

Can I beg people, for all that is decent, not to click on Daily Mail 'exclusives'. And certainly not to give a second's credence to a single word written.

Regardless of what anyone thinks about the Daily Mail (and it's far from my favourite news source) it's still worth remembering that in the U.K. they are subject to the laws of liable.

In other words, they can't just print anything they wish without being subject to legal action.

They also can't make false representation in the sense if they say they have a source that has provided information even if they are not named they should have verified that person is who they claim to be and that the information given is likely to be accurate in so far that person would have had access to it.

Having said that most credible news organisations would never base a story on a single unnamed source - they would want to see corroboration from multiple sources expect in very unusual circumstances or where other evidence (eg documents) backs up the claims of a single source.

So whilst I'm not holding up the Mail as anywhere near a paragon of journalistic/editorial ethics you can't simply say what they print is automatically rubbish.

If they say they have a source In M's inner circle then the reality is they do.

Whether the information provided by that source is 100% accurate is another matter, but the paper (having checked out that sources credentials) must have good reason to suppose that it is because otherwise its liable - in this case with a person who has already entered into legal action against them.