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Well here we are, another thread for those who wish to discuss. We are not nasty, but we do call account on what is going on, and and what taxpayers pay for.

How ironic that @ ing is sufficiently unpleasant to amount to bullying given the contents of these threads which are definitely NOT nasty because it says so at the beginning

I haven't noticed @ being a problem anywhere else on MN. Only on this thread is it considered bullying. I think the less that is happening with H&M, the less there is to actually discuss, the nastier these threads get.

Wow, Kayaking, ‘boring’ eh? I’m sure the Canadians are loving that!!!!

A younger version of me would have been offended at Madonna's comments. Now I will call her irrelevant.

sniffs, in a superior fashion

I don't mind @-ing. Makes acknowledging easier which I am sure is what it was intended to do.

I agree that the world has got a bit too much of a close look at the royal family and they aren't keen on what they're seeing. What with the disgusting Andrew and now the withdrawal flounce of H & M. I'm not sure it could survive another scandal.

The thread is often critical. That doesn't make it nasty. Public figures are bound to attract criticism, depending on how they conduct themselves.

In African American culture, solidarity on the issue of racism is one of the paramount values.

But how convenient that it bagged Oprah an invitation to a royal wedding.

I've said before that wedding invitations to influential people are one of few things the royals can barter in return for support for their chosen causes. In H&M's case, themselves.

Let's not make this more than it is.

Let's not make this more than it is.

A far greater problem where racism is concerned is to make it less than what it is.

A far greater problem where racism is concerned is to make it less than what it is.

That's a different problem.

I wonder how many other of the sleb guests where actually known to the happy couple?

Re Oprah/Doria, I can see the convo:
D: M darling, can I bring my friend Oprah?
M: yes of course mummy (sees TV opp)
D: and her husband?
M: why not, the more the merrier, we've got to fill the chapel!

Still think it's weird she didnt invite some of D's family, including the uncle who got her the internship in Buenos Aires, also that D herself didnt think to suggest it - or she did and got told no?

Am I the only one who finds the thought of H & M living in a 2 bed flat in Manhattan amusing?

Actually, it's not a different problem. There is historical trauma at play in the lives of African Americans, and choices they make regarding other African Americans often have to be seen in that context. I think that Meghan, and many US observers, really expected that there would be less racism in the UK, and were frankly stunned that it came so soon and was so overt.

I thought it was Thomas's brother who got her the internship Yolo?

They will rent the flat below for the security detail at the tax payers expense.

oh fleas I am more than likely wrong! Well, that uncle prob deserved an invite then.

ajandjj yes, but I somehow think Madonna's 2 bed flat in Manhattan might be more than adequate for a couple with a baby - she probably owns the flat next door for the staff!!

But that isn't relevant to why Oprah came to the wedding, FramboiseRoyale. How many WoC weddings do you think Oprah attends where she has never met the bride?

This has nothing to do with solidarity and everything to do with opportunity, on both sides. And unfortunately it does look a bit tacky when you (as far as we know) have no other family members attending.

But as I say, they aren't the only royals to do it.

This has nothing to do with solidarity and everything to do with opportunity, on both sides.

I agree with this. Who "bagged" whom? How is it perceived: Did Oprah score an invitation to a royal wedding or did M&H bag an internationally famous guest?

@DandyAndFine aah I too am sorry to see you go .This thread can be a bit heavy going some times .

Will miss your posts and humour ,I particularly enjoyed No Meghan Markles were mocked during the making of this ‘joke’.

Who "bagged" whom?

I think six of one and half a dozen of the other. Both seeing benefit from a future relationship. And it's not all at M's door, after all Harry is the one involved with Oprah on that project.

It must take a lot of confidence to invite so many famous people to one's wedding, and be sure that you won't be overlooked or outshone. I mean, it's difficult to overlook the bride anyway, but still... maybe I just dont understand slebland (thank god!)

Let’s face it, you know, even if you know nothing about the bride and groom, who’s going to turn down a right Royal shindig at the chapel and palace... it’s a couple of chapters worth of a book, and you could fill numerous sofas with promises of juicy tidbits.

Oprah turned up to rubber neck, like the Beckhams, the Clooneys, Elton and the rest.

They each give legitimacy to the other.
They were all rentacrowd best friends forever of three minutes.. that’s the deal.

Nothing to be gained from inviting family, (who know you and can spill the beans) and it doesn’t fit with the “she has no family” narrative she fed H-as-I-like-to-call-him during their ’whirlwind romance’.

Oh no, little orphan Annie had to make the brave and solitary walk up the aisle, with only her mother (whom she didn’t grow up with) sitting all on her lonesome in the pew for the bride.

Oh, the pathos…

It’s truly a three hanky show.

It was a bit odd that Meghan's Diplomat uncle didn't get invited - despite pulling strings to help her get a prestigious internship at the US Embassy in Argentina when she failed to apply on time. Yet Oprah was invited to the Wedding and Gayle King invited to the baby shower neither of whom had ever met her.

I think any one inviting rent a celebs is a bit tragic to be honest. Sad that Oprah seems to be in that category. She has achieved so much that she shouldn't need to rely on people who have their fame as a result of birth/marriage - it is demeaning to her.

I didn't see the lack of family present as a big question mark at the time, but I did wonder why Doria wasn't asked to give her daughter away once Thomas Markle's absence was confirmed. I know it's not traditional but then neither is the whole big white wedding second time round, and that was given clearance. If my dad couldn't be present I would definitely have wanted my mum to do it.

It was a bit odd that Meghan's Diplomat uncle didn't get invited - despite pulling strings to help her get a prestigious internship at the US Embassy in Argentina when she failed to apply on time. Yet Oprah was invited to the Wedding and Gayle King invited to the baby shower neither of whom had ever met her.

This is a very important point, and an insight into MM that will not hold even superficial scrutiny.

I guess aspirational invitations are a thing in LA. I guess the chance to attend a Royal wedding was a big draw even for A-listers.

I did read that Reese Witherspoon was invited but declined. I guess it depends how A list you are really.

It must be both exciting and terrifying being a non aristo guest at a royal wedding, especially if you're American and don't know the ins and outs of a British top drawer wedding, let alone a royal one.