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M & H-as-I-call-him 16

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yolofish · 03/02/2020 21:41

Well here we are, another thread for those who wish to discuss. We are not nasty, but we do call account on what is going on, and and what taxpayers pay for.

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MotherofTerriers · 05/02/2020 10:08

Harold Bluetooth at the shooting party with a 12 bore

7Worfs · 05/02/2020 10:11

peridito you (or anyone) doesn’t have any control over what phrases become memes. Any attempt to control it just makes it more popular. HTH.

I’ve been on the receiving end of being mocked with some doozie I’ve uttered (who hasn’t?) , it’s quite normal. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 05/02/2020 10:27

Peridito people pounce on posters' comments all the time on MN. Rarely are posters who find themselves the victim of a pile-on as vigorously defended as MM on these threads.

I think something said in a televised interview is fair game, actually. It could easily have been edited out if MM had wanted. She was presumably happy for it to go out. I really wouldn't lose sleep over it.

DandyDuchess · 05/02/2020 10:30

Oh, I see the professionally offended have arrived

Obviously feel free to ignore, but I think it would be great if we could not do statements like this, it just creates a ‘Them’ (as I call them Wink*) and ‘Us’. Which may be what one or two people may want perhaps, but this is a thread for all views.

*Said tongue in cheek, making fun of the phrase being used. No Meghan Markles were mocked during the making of this ‘joke’.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 05/02/2020 10:40

Good point, Dandy.

If we could stay on topic (more or less, allowing for friendly diversions and the like) that would be lovely.

Let's try and avoid the thread descending into handbags and hair pulling.

peridito · 05/02/2020 11:45

Thank you Dandy

Worfs Yolo aked a question H-as-I-call-him - why is repeating that mean? and I was replying .

I'm not trying to control anything ,and normalising mocking ( as you call it ) because you have experienced it isn't something something i personally want to support .

I will leave it there .

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yolofish · 05/02/2020 11:58

I dunno, in my family if anyone says anything particularly inane it goes into the family lexicon for life!

eg, my parents once received a postcard from Spain, with some white mountains as the backdrop. "What's all that white stuff" I said and my father fell about laughing and reminded me of it every possible opportunity for the rest of his life. I thought it was funny.

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rockingchaircandle · 05/02/2020 12:08

Picking up on something and it becoming a family joke can work in different ways, and I'm not sure that's the best analogy here. It can be a good natured, bonding experience not aimed at mocking the person, this is common in my family and many others. It only works as humour if there's love or respect there first.

But for some families, its part of an abusive relationship where it's not good natured and is designed to put the other person down. So I think intent and frequency is key. You're not picking up on things Meghan has done to laugh at her, and it often seems like every little thing is seized on.

WendyMoiraAngelaDarling · 05/02/2020 12:14

I will leave it there

If only this statement could be relied on Hmm

rockingchaircandle · 05/02/2020 12:21

Oops, not proof reading!

You ARE picking up on things to laugh AT Meghan is what I mean. With the family analogy, it's normally more that you are laughing 'with'

Kind of the difference between being mean and just joshing!

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yolofish · 05/02/2020 12:25

If you read back rockingchair there was a discussion about H-as-I-call-him with posters feeling that actually it's quite a belittling thing to say about someone else. Especially when you are talking to a journalist so you know that phrase is going to be repeated ad infinitum.

To be safe, she should have referred to him as Harry, rather than inviting the world to share in her intimate nickname for him.

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rockingchaircandle · 05/02/2020 12:29

@yolofish I was explaining why I thought your use of the family analogy didn't explain away concerns that repeating the phrase Meghan used was mean.

Many people here didn't like the phrase, lots of people didn't mind it all, I'm sure many didn't really register it. I don't think anyone is arguing that the comment she made can't be viewed in different ways. I thought we were discussing your question about the repeating of it.

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yolofish · 05/02/2020 12:33

well I consider myself well and truly reprimanded now!

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IsntCoffeeWonderful · 05/02/2020 12:34

It’s fair use rocking... it’s in the public domain.

MM dug that hole for herself... it echoes.

rockingchaircandle · 05/02/2020 12:40

@IsntCoffeeWonderful

Yes, it's in the public domain, I'm not arguing with that. So it is 'fair use' in that sense.

I think disagreement comes from the assumption that it was a bad comment to make (that a hole was dug in the first place) and whether it's 'mean' to keep repeating it.

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yolofish · 05/02/2020 12:43

I think it is you that is disagreeing rockingchair, no one else appears to have a particular issue with it?

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DandyDuchess · 05/02/2020 13:00

MM having said it tickles me because she said it as a royal (or one-to-be), and I automatically think of the Queen saying it. It’s not the usual type of phrasing a royal family member would say about a senior family member, so it did stick out. People are going to comment if there’s a clear deviation from how the Royals usually speak. And it’s a fun phrase to say, it’s sing-song.

The phrase was discussed, bantered about and yes mocked on the last thread enough that it become a thread trope. A thread in-joke on its own merits as a phrase. The new thread title is a reflection of that. Would have happened regardless of who said it. But wouldn’t have happened if you all hadn’t discussed it so much Rocking.

peridito · 05/02/2020 13:11

But wouldn’t have happened if you all hadn’t discussed it so Rocking.possibly ,possibly not ,who knows !

I think it is you that is disagreeing rockingchair, no one else appears to have a particular issue with it? - is there a point being made here or is this just a comment about Rocking holding a minority view ?

kirinm · 05/02/2020 13:12

It is very clearly an affectionate nickname but only people on this thread would conclude she's trying to belittle him.

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yolofish · 05/02/2020 13:14

hmmm. I'm going to have lunch now - pizza as been in the garden for 2.5 hours hacking down brambles. What's everyone else having?

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Allflightscancelled · 05/02/2020 13:18

I had homemade soup yolo.

I make it from all the stuff that's going soft in the bottom of the fridge so it's never the same twice and it's known in our house as fag end soup.

Tastes better (usually) than it sounds.

FramboiseRoyale · 05/02/2020 13:39

If we could stay on topic (more or less, allowing for friendly diversions and the like) that would be lovely.

But what exactly is the topic? Other than to be mean spirited about a woman in the public eye? There is very little substance on this thread other than repeating questionable bits of so-called information about her.

IsntCoffeeWonderful · 05/02/2020 13:40

Please don’t @ me rocking.

LaMarschallin · 05/02/2020 13:44

MotherofTerriers

Harold Bluetooth at the shooting party with a 12 bore

Oh! My compliments Smile

I so wish I'd thought of that.