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M & H-as-I-call-him 16

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yolofish · 03/02/2020 21:41

Well here we are, another thread for those who wish to discuss. We are not nasty, but we do call account on what is going on, and and what taxpayers pay for.

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7Worfs · 07/02/2020 10:30

Biggest acting job in her whole career.

Yes, and she didn’t do a good enough job either. I wish someone else was cast. Grin

rockingchaircandle · 07/02/2020 10:31

I agree Peridito, and Kirinm's point about the scrutiny he faces from the position he was born into probably links to his references to Diana. It was in his childhood, but he's then had to watch her and her reputation still being reported on and be questioned about his grief throughout his life. (And definitely children lose parents and have no support, so he's not the worst off). It must be hard to grow up and try and grieve with that, it will form a big part of your identity I suppose. Hopefully having his own family, with Meghan and Archie will help.

7Worfs · 07/02/2020 10:37

Anyway, why is no one else linking to their Oscar dresses?
I’ve ordered mine, a steal at 4k after a 50% discount!

rockingchaircandle · 07/02/2020 10:40

That moved quickly, so just to say, having read back, kirinm's description of what Harry went through with his mum's death is more detailed but spot on. It wasn't just the goldfish bowl effect, it was the rumors and conflict in the family as well. It really must have been tough. I'm sorry for everyone's losses who've discussed them here but everyone does experience grief differently without there being a right way.

LaMarschallin · 07/02/2020 10:42

Anyway, why is no one else linking to their Oscar dresses?

I can't yet, 7, as I'll have to wait and see what Buttery's wearing being her official seat keeper and all.

Whatever it is, it'll have to go with the green donkey Smile

7Worfs · 07/02/2020 10:50

Buttery the suspense is killing me, post dress!

alliwantisagoodnightssleep · 07/02/2020 10:52

Afraid I’m going to upstage you all. Been having a chat with Her Majesty and she has agreed to let me borrow this whole outfit.

images.app.goo.gl/hShoEr1dHeiHTucc8

Sorry peasants.

7Worfs · 07/02/2020 10:55

sleep that’s cheating! Shock

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/02/2020 12:03

agree about the grammar LaM. Perhaps he was trying to be down wiv da kidz?

I've heard William make grammatical errors too. I think it's they have just picked it up the way other people do, from media and listening to others who seemed to have missed the lessons at school especially on the difference between the nominative and objective cases. (William sometimes says "Catherine and I" when he should say "Catherine and me.") Half the English speaking world seems to be under the impression that there is something wrong with "me."

peridito · 07/02/2020 12:09

yes ,count me in to that half Seneca Smile .I think my fear of getting it wrong makes it hard for me to get it right ,IYSWIM.And "I" sounds posher /more polished than " me" .

Isn't there some handy way of reminding oneself - something about deleting something from the sentence and it still making sense ?

queenofarles · 07/02/2020 12:26

We’ve all lost loved ones, of course you can never forget them. Sometimes it hurts thinking about them but really you move on and live with it. They both need to look at the good things they have . beautiful healthy baby. No financial worries, good health. Just the possibility of not doing any work for a months and still get paid makes them extremely fortunate.

I just get the feeling Harry will always be miserable always blaming others for whatever mood he is in.

meercat23 · 07/02/2020 12:27

Perdito Just make the sentence about yourself and not the other person and it becomes clear which you should use. I am going, rather than me -= My wife and I are going.

I would like to go, rather than me = My wife and I would like to go.

annielouise · 07/02/2020 12:28

I agree sometimes it is unclear when to say I or when to say me. However, "a charity me and Prince Seeiso" isn't a case in point.

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/02/2020 12:28

peridito yes, the handy way is to take the other person out of the sentence. So if William were about to say "Thank you so much for the warm welcome you have given to Catherine and I", if he stopped a sec in his mind to take Catherine out of the sentence, would he say "Thank you so much for the warm welcome you have given to I", no he would not.

Having said that, I am not a pedant in these matters. For example, I never say "It is I" or "It is they', both of which are excruciatingly correct. English is ever evolving and ever changing (some would say not for the best), and I try not to fault people for usages that have become very common. If they are used often enough, they will eventually become accepted usage.

meercat23 · 07/02/2020 12:29

Perdito Sorry missed the other half. It happened to me, rather than I.= it happened to my wife and me.

annielouise · 07/02/2020 12:31

It's one of the most obvious, clearest and easiest examples of it being "Prince Seeiso and I". This from a man brought up in an environment of people speaking correctly, supposedly having a basic standard of education too.

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/02/2020 12:33

Speaking of "gotten," that is American English that is making its way back to the UK from which it came in the first place. It was the usage when the American colonies were settled, and like "fall" for autumn, was kept by us, but eventually abandoned in the UK. I have never quite understood why some speakers of British English get in a froth over its resurgence; they don't seem to have an issue with "forgotten," which has the same root.

annielouise · 07/02/2020 12:45

Maybe because to us (possibly of a certain age) it's a sign of going backwards or not wanting to accept American English when English is good enough.

annielouise · 07/02/2020 12:46

Also, it made people wonder how much of what H says is written by M.

annielouise · 07/02/2020 12:50

I think H is out of his depth on the world stage. Classic case of being promoted one level (or more) above your capabilities.

DandyDuchess · 07/02/2020 12:50

I always have to mentally take the other person out of the sentence to work out I/me. I keep thinking it’ll come naturally to I me, but nope! However once you know this trick there’s no going wrong.

peridito · 07/02/2020 12:52

aah - Seneca and meer thank you ! I do believe I've got it now !

SenecaFallsRedux · 07/02/2020 12:53

Well, he may have gotten "gotten" from M, but definitely not his misuse of the nominative and objective cases.

rockingchaircandle · 07/02/2020 12:55

With gotten I think its easy to pick up phrases from your partner. My Irish partner always thought it sounded very English when I'd say 'shall we... do this" but I've used his 'will we' recently a lot too. Not to say either phrase is 'better' but it doesn't have to be sinister.

peridito · 07/02/2020 12:56

and thanks Seneca for that post about "gotten" .
I find that sort of fact fascinating ,never thought about "forgotten/gotten" !