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yolofish · 03/02/2020 21:41

Well here we are, another thread for those who wish to discuss. We are not nasty, but we do call account on what is going on, and and what taxpayers pay for.

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yolofish · 07/02/2020 09:56

I have to say I think Harry is starting to come over as a bit of a drip. His 'years of challenges' - I know you can have problems whoever you are/however rich, but I am quite uncomfortable with someone SO privileged whinging on about their 'challenges' when there are people who cant feed their children, women who cant leave abusive partners because they have nowhere to go. The kind of real life stuff that will never affect him.

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peridito · 07/02/2020 09:58

Yolo not enough to survive ,you've got to thrive And if you were the very famous family who provided all that stuff, wouldnt you think it was a rather ungracious, ungrateful thing to say? I certainly would.

It was certainly a very tone deaf statement to make .I wonder if anyone in the RF agreed with the sentiment ( while wishing she'd not said it ! ) it must be such a poisioned chalice being in the RF .

queenofarles · 07/02/2020 10:00

Peridto I won’t quote DM , but People has been getting feeds from her friends or but some of things like how they are "happier away from the RF, weight is lifted" "bad blood in that family and toxic"
And lest we forget , the ITV doc with with all the thriving and not ok quotes.

How do you make all these assumptions of the RF in a matter of two years? It looks like they made their mind from the very start and just used said family as a stepping stone. I can’t think of any other explanation.

alliwantisagoodnightssleep · 07/02/2020 10:00

Meghan will unfortunately be able to attend Beatrice’s wedding as she will be having heart surgery the day before. She really wanted to attend but doctors advised it was impossible. Extra points for a pap shot of her going to get coffee as they are saying their vows.

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yolofish · 07/02/2020 10:01

agreed peridito - is that a shock to you?! Grin

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Butterymuffin · 07/02/2020 10:02

Hepsibar I don't know if the rural life is really what they want. They were supposedly offered a country house in Wales (by Charles) and said no, and Windsor also seemed not what they wanted after initially moving out of London for a quieter life. I wonder how rural Canada will work out for them.

rockingchaircandle · 07/02/2020 10:03

Yes, Buttery to the cigarettes and the problems in US!

YOLO I think it does look ungrateful if you just look at the material things. All of the RF look like they have very privileged lives from that perspective. In reality, there's so much they lose out on, it's pretty hollow. And for M&H they faced the extra challenges that led to their decision to step back.

EthelMayFergus · 07/02/2020 10:05

annielouise Yes, I believe it's the same poster too.

peridito · 07/02/2020 10:05

Yeah I know Queen - friends etc reported in the press .If they are friends I don't think they are doing her any favours .

I have friends who say things with great sincerity but those things are massively exagerated . So who knows really where the truth lies .It's all about what sells and increases clicks I think !

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yolofish · 07/02/2020 10:06

rockingchair agreed Grin. But if I was in the position of having given or offered all those things, my immediate reaction to those comments would be "well fuck you then"!

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peridito · 07/02/2020 10:08

Yolo is what a shock to me ?

this it must be such a poisioned chalice being in the RF

or this

It was certainly a very tone deaf statement to make

peridito · 07/02/2020 10:10

yolo But if I was in the position of having given or offered all those things, my immediate reaction to those comments would be "well fuck you then"!

the above is certainly not a shock to me !

kirinm · 07/02/2020 10:10

But Yolo - but he was born into a family that demands he do things a certain way and he is expected to perform certain duties. Imagine being born into an institution which gets to dictate your life. It's a shit thing to have to come into privileged or not - and I'm not disputing that he is incredibly privileged. But we aren't talking the same sort of privilege as the rich toffs at private schools who can go on to have careers doing whatever they fancy.

His entire life is and always will be under scrutiny. He didn't actively choose to be a celebrity. You can't compare his life to someone who chooses to become a famous actor or wants to be a superstar.

Clearly his challenges are not the same as others but that doesn't mean he isn't allowed to hate being restricted by them.

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yolofish · 07/02/2020 10:11

no peridito that we found something to agree on Grin I was trying to be funny - obvs fail!

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LaMarschallin · 07/02/2020 10:12

The poor English in that speech made me cringe. I know it's boringly pedantic of me but this wasn't a quick post on MN. He was giving a speech about a charity that he says is very dear to him and, also, wanting to put over some important points that weren't directly related to the charity.

Things like:
a charity me and Prince Seeiso created
and
The decision that I have made for my wife and I to step back
were quite clunky. gotten made me wince too, I'm afraid.

Maybe they were deliberate mistakes to show he wrote it all by himself.

And, tragic though it was, he could do with easing up on the son of Diana stuff now so many years have gone past. After all, he wasn't the only one.

Allflightscancelled · 07/02/2020 10:12

Minor detour to Prince A, here, but have you seen this story?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51409732

Apparently PA was due to be promoted to Admiral on his birthday, but he's "asked the MOD" to defer it

peridito · 07/02/2020 10:12

Sorry Yolo ,different sense of humour maybe Blush ?

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yolofish · 07/02/2020 10:15

agree about the grammar LaM. Perhaps he was trying to be down wiv da kidz?

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peridito · 07/02/2020 10:15

LaM so sad I think the references to his mother .It seems it still affects him hugely and that he's not come to any terms with it .

7Worfs · 07/02/2020 10:22

Spot on, LaM, especially the Diana stuff.

I also lost a parent unexpectedly when I was 9, so I think I know what I’m talking about. It’s one thing to preserve her memory, quite another what he’s doing.
William also talks about Diana, but in a very constructive way, what’s he’s learned from her, her legacy, etc.
Harry is coming across as a wet blanket lately, when he started trying to paint a certain narrative. I wonder where he’s picked that up. 🤔

kirinm · 07/02/2020 10:24

What a shitty thing to say about his mother.

Lots of people lose parents but do lots of people have hundreds of thousands of people mourn for them so publically? Do lots of people have stories about their parentage all over the papers, the conspiracy theories about his death, the conflict that must cause because of his love for his father and grandmother etc. The fact he probably knows half of his family hated his mother and the never ending stories about her.

She was William's mother too of course but just because he isn't massively messed up by it (we assume), doesn't mean Harry has to be totally okay with it.

kirinm · 07/02/2020 10:25

I'm sorry you lost a parent but you have no authority to talk about how another person should be allowed to grieve.

kirinm · 07/02/2020 10:27

My older sister died when I was 16. My mum grieves for her every single day. Please do go on and tell me she shouldn't.

Stillfunny · 07/02/2020 10:27

She could easily go to Bea's wedding. She attended Pippa Middleton's without making a public appearance.

And absolutely they should go to the Oscars. Biggest acting job in her whole career.

LaMarschallin · 07/02/2020 10:29

Perdito

It seems it still affects him hugely and that he's not come to any terms with it .

Yes. And if his main identification seems to be "son of" rather than "father of" or "husband to", I suppose it will be difficult for him to move on.

I'm afraid I'm not as nice as you and am a bit cynical about the frequent references to his mother's death.