Harry and Meghan (15)

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No harm in having it ready for the next event/announcement...

I think I'd probably start worrying for him a little later, when his role in the Royal Family comes up for discussion. Hopefully all sides in the RF will have done some hard thinking by then.

They certainly should have. And another area which I think we agree is on the importance of Archie building a relationship with his cousins in the RF, because they will understand like no-one else the constraints of royal life.

Yes I wonder about how much there’s a threat too. I suppose capturing a royal is always going to be newsworthy and it’s the publicity that is usually wanted in these situations.

Oh it was Myimaginarycathasfleas!

So many posts to wade through that I got those I was interested in mixed up.

The thing is Archie is going to have a completely different upbringing isn’t he? Sadly he will probably not have much in common with his cousins. Louis is a year older, they could have been best buddies. I’m sure Kate is very sad about that.

I thought that Sunset.

The way that ridiculous royal protocol works, will Archie Mountbatten-Windsor have to bow to HRH Louie?

Do people bow and curtsey to Beatrice and Eugenie? It does my head in.

Its the use or non use of HRH that I just can't muster any interest in.

Williams cousins do not bow to him, so no. As I understood it, the Royals only bow to the Sovereign . I think that’s right.
Beatrice and Eugenie are minor royals so I don’t think anyone bows to them.

@SunsetBoulevard3
Maybe we don't need to write off the cousins-relationship just yet? I think I read somewhere that Harry is close to Beatrice and Eugenie because they understand each other through their shared background, so he and the others could well see it as beneficial to let them form a friendship. Maybe, the cousins 'in the fold' will have perspectives that benefit the cousins 'in the wild' and vice versa.

And together they revolutionise the monarchy!? (Although I'm still hoping to see an end to it in my life time)

I just find Your Royal Highness such a ridiculous term in the modern age. Maybe several centuries ago when the Monarch was so far removed from the people as to be regarded as almost a deity. But not now. It’s ludicrous.

The HRH issue is one of those things of ritual significance that can be made to sound like a Big Deal but also has no real bearing on day to day life or how many people will regard them. Convenient to all parties really.

The point is though that they won’t have a shared background. William and Kate’s children will be the children of the King eventually. Brought up in the RF following all the protocols and going to private schools. Mixing with aristocracy. Archie will most likely be a fairly ordinary guy brought up in LA going to American schools. He won’t even feel Royal in all probability . That’s what I imagine M and H want. I think the last thing M wants is for her son to have much to do with the RF now.

Eugenie seems a really sweet girl from all appearances and I believe she and Harry are good friends. Whether that extends to their spouses I don't know. It would be nice to think they could stay in touch as cousins, and their children too.

I thought, through hearing long ago about the abdication crisis, that the Queen and Queen Mother ( and maybe the old Queen Mary ) were very fixated on the proper usage of HRH? It's their thing of course!

Harry was very close to all his cousins before his marriage. Not sure about now though.

Archie will most likely be a fairly ordinary guy brought up in LA going to American schools.

I'm not sure how ordinary H&M actually want him to be. My guess would be that M has in mind a Chelsea Clinton (male equivalent) kind of life for him. And that costs money.

Most people on these threads are exploring the issues (which do have constituational issues)

Yes the entire 15 threads have been a really interesting and instructive analysis of the constitutional issues. I am fascinated and really admire how you all have managed to discuss these without descending into the personal at all.

No, not a shared background, your right. I was thinking more a complementary background. So Archie brings his ordinary-LA guy know-how to the table, and the others bring their insider-Royal knowledge and they can help each other out!

He could well end up in an international school so he might meet up with rich kids who've had similar but obviously not identical background, that could also be useful. Charlotte and Louis, and even George might face a royal family that doesn't work conventionally anymore.

I don’t think Archie’s going to be much of an ordinary LA guy rocking! He’s extremely likely to go to a private school with other rick celebrity children. And I think you’re right that there’s a good chance he’ll be at an international school.

He’s extremely likely to go to a private school with other rick celebrity children.

If he had been allowed to stay in the UK it could have been so different.

If he'd been allowed? No one told his parents to leave

I know Katie ... they did it to themselves. Consigned their son to a life of private school with rich kids instead of the egalatarian education that would have been his in the UK. Like George and Charlotte he could have been mixing with ordinary kids. So sad.

Ah, good point! Ok maybe the ordinary-LA school would make a great change for Archie after all. But
seriously, I'mm sure his mum and dad will want what's best for him and will know him best to find the right school.

Lol pallisers you’re a hoot. I was pointing out that the term ‘ordinary LA upbringing’ is a funny one to apply to him. Both Meghan and Harry went to private schools, Meghan to one in LA. So they’re quite likely to send Archie to one. Any private in school in the world is likely to have at least one rich kid, and a private school in LA is likely to have celebrity children. Nowt wrong in my book with a child going to a private school where there are children of celebrities, it’s often driven by location. My own son goes to a private international school with rich kids and the children of a few celebrities. So no sneering from me.

Well no I think its highly doubtful Archie will go to a 'normal school', whatever M&H future standing they're still multi millionaires so they won't be looking at the local school for plebs. In fairness when you look at 'celebs' kids who've actually done nowt for themselves other than coasting off their parents tailcoats (there are not that many talented/attractive teenagers in the world to become 'models', unless their surname is XYZ). Then yes its great if they actually choose to carve their own way in life, but many just seem to be of the 'can't be arsed' mentality. Far easier to let the 'family name' pave the way to success without actually having to do fuck all.