Harry & Meghan 14

[yolofish]

A thread for those who wish to discuss what's in the news and what your take on it is.

RL calls so I'll have to catch up later but I'd like to understand where the belief and statements like She makes no bones about not liking Britain at all that Meghan doesn't like Britian come from .

I don't read all the newspapers and like several posters I'm not on instagram ,twitter or any other platforms so perhaps Meghan has been quoted somewhere and I've missed it .

Roussette

It has been reported in more than one place, that the Sun was about to leak the going so they had no choice but to go public with their plans.
The Queen knew, the RF knew, they were ironing out the logistics and then the Sun was going to run the story."
I wonder who leaked the info to The Sun?

And a big shout out to those posters who are now able to say that what they are posting is only an opinion .Only their opinion .

These constant demands for evidence and sources are one of the reasons for my drawing attention to the mentionitis of The Trump Threads. I feel as though some posters are attempting to impose their own preferred academic standards, as is in place on T T Ts, on what is essentially just a light hearted running commentary thread with some actually fantastic analysis and insight at times. I don't want to do this and will not no matter how often I am asked to and I think it's only a very few who do want this. Report anything you deem to be mean, libellous or dangerously hyperbolic and then just let the discussion flow. Posters have marvelled at how these supposedly dreadful discussions have been left to stand and yet here we are so clearly largely NOT breaking talk guidelines.

It seems there are people out there who think H&M are deliriously happy, now reunited after escaping the clutches of the evil RF, and their ‘happily ever after’ can finally begin.

While it would be nice for this to be true, it’s just too big of a requirement for suspension of disbelief to anyone with some amount of life experience and a broad range of relationships. IMHO.

Peridito applies to everyone so it’s fine to disagree with statements but disagreements surely also have to be fully referenced to reputable sources if suggesting an alternative

7worfs

Exactly! I would like them to please evidence that this is true

Well, the option for civilised debate serms off the table! Reading through to here, it seems just as toxic as last time. I think it must be what happens on threads designed to attack a family, this is the kind of atmosphere that is created.

I to will offer my opinion. I will continue to question others about their opinions. I can't see how a discussion forum is supposed to work if you expect to just plonk down your opinion and have everyone agree. Label it however you fancy!

Roussette

*that's a very vitriolic post about Meghan Markle. Yes your opinion but really...
She bolted to leave Harry to face the fallout
She leaves her baby
She's the epitome of smug
She's calculating.
She runs as soon as she moves up a rung
She engages in social media oneupmanship

Nasty. Just nasty. This is a woman with a baby you're talking about here.
Just because a woman has a baby doesn't mean she can't be or do the things the poster stated.

@WendyMoiraAngelaDarling
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ROFL at expectations that it can only be said that Meghan doesn’t like Britain is if she made an official statement about it. 😂 😂 😂
Actions of individuals of public interest are free for commentary and personal opinions about their motivations.

IMHO and HTH.

Yes 7worfs, the suspension of belief is so naive. I'm fascinated about the lack of independent thought and putting pieces of a picture together created by people's own actions and trusting your own experience and instinct unless someone else has already proven it as fact

Can I have some evidence from Meghan's own mouth that she likes Britain, appreciates the accommodations the RF made that weren't given to other future and new spouses, intends to actually live independently without money from the Royal Family, hasn't used the RF to heighten her own profile and hasn't tipped the paps off

Until there is proof of this I am going to continue to draw my own conclusions. Thank you

This claim seems strange:

"The owner is going to want something in return, as someone upthread mentioned. There no such thing as a free lunch. Or free milk... It all smacks of Andrew’s shenanigans doesn’t it! Very uncomfortable"

I think a lot of people wonder why Meghan and Harry have faced such ire, partly in comparison to Andrew. This is the crisis that rocks the monarchy, that is disrespectful rather than Andrew's shenanigans (which seem a pretty tame way to describe those allegations).

@SunsetBoulevard3 what is it that this smacks of to you? This seems a particularly bizarre and nasty claim?

I see these threads as essentially like a group of friends having a coffee and a chat. We aren’t academics and we aren’t writing a thesis. When you’ve seen a bit of life and people and observed and experienced a variety of relationships, you get a gut feeling about things. I think the observations on here have been pretty measured actually and have merited intelligent discussion.

Bugger me. Some of you don't want to back up your opinion with a source or a link to the info you are weighing in on or stating as fact. No wonder the world is fucked. Even 12 year olds can do point, evidence, explain.

I think it must be what happens on threads designed to attack a family, this is the kind of atmosphere that is created.

Not goady, not goady at all

Well, taking favours from rich, well connected people. That’s what I’m talking about. The house has been given to them to live in, presumably for free for as long as they like it seems. If it isn’t free, that’s yet another house the tax payer is funding.

I agree Sunset. We're just a bunch of people chatting and largely have the same opinions, so we naturally gravitate towards each other. We wouldn't wade into a conversation in real life to disagree with most people and act hypocritically and not expect to put people's backs up

Meghan’s brother’s letter to Prince Harry asking him not to marry her.

Apparently Thomas Markle was not invited to the wedding.

Which also begs the question. Who put up the photographer who took those candid shots of TM being measured for a suit in Mexico.
Why did they do it? ( apart from money)
Who tipped off the DM a month later; that there was CCTV in the Internet cafe; to prove it was a set up...

Roussette

Sunset Because I'm astounded at the vitriol directed at her and also want to correct some falsities. Believe me I really don't thrive on conflict. I just hate it when a gang of people lay into someone and quote stuff that is wrong.
You do seem to nitpick everyone's post where they have a negative opinion of Meghan. I don't see you doing it with the few that have the opposite opinion.

And why are you saying you are correcting falsities and stuff that is wrong? Where are you providing actual evidence that others are wrong? Aren't you just stating your opinion which is to the contrary of other posters?

Blackandwhite
I wonder who leaked the info to The Sun? I have no idea. No one knows. But if your go-to reading is the DM, I presume you would guess at MM!

It seems there are people out there who think H&M are deliriously happy, now reunited after escaping the clutches of the evil RF, and their ‘happily ever after’ can finally begin

While it would be nice for this to be true, it’s just too big of a requirement for suspension of disbelief to anyone with some amount of life experience and a broad range of relationships. IMHO

Never said the RF were evil but besides that, your second para made me laugh our loud. Seriously! I shan't bore you with my broad range of relationship history or life experience but.... really......!!

The only way I can address that is to say I always look for the positive in a person, not the negative.

It's strange both sides think the other side is not thinking independently.

The Daily Mail, Express, Sun articles I've come across seem exactly like the nastier comments about Meghan and Harry on these threads, in the content, the tone and the vague sources.

The last one I saw in the Sun was 'The five times Meghan Markle has upstaged Kate Middleton – and how Kate got her revenge' - it was like playing MN M&H bingo! It's hard not to see this as a vicious circle.

Sunset this is also how I see these threads. Group of people chatting...

Taking the media out of it, what abouts Meghan's own actions. Things she'd said and done herself. She doesn't need the media to paint her in a bad light