H & M - The Cat, The Barber and the Argyll Pheasant Pluckers

[TheMustressMhor]

I hope I've got what everyone wants in the title of this, the twelfth thread in the series.

I felt uncomfortable too with the prostitute and stripper reference.

It was almost as if he mentioned it to get a dig in/ belittle her in some way.

@SunsetBoulevard3

So, spiteful behaviour and nasty comments are only bad when you're describing someone else??!

Do you think there has been any of this towards Meghan and family on these threads?

That Thomas Markle documentary seems to be very thinly veiled blackmail- start looking after Daddy or there will be a lot more where this is coming from with a lot more juicy details. Absolute car crash of a family -if you scripted this in a novel or film you would be ridiculed.

I agree the security costs will be where this house of cards falls. You cannot repeatedly slag off a nation, move overseas to get away and then ask that same nation to fund your over privileged existence, whilst continuing to bore anyone who will listen about your spectacularly first world problems.

Harry reminds me of Jacky O - who I have read about quite extensively. Very privileged, elite upbringing and quite a charmed life (although with acrimoniously divorced parents) - until the horrific murder of her husband a result of which she suffered severe PTSD.

She hated the press and was pathologically fearful for the safety of her children- completely understandably. She was massively protective of their privacy and had a huge desire they live normal lives. This made her by all accounts incredibly difficult to deal with, almost completely irrational at times.

She took up with Onassis as he gave her what she craved, lifetime security.

I think Harry has very similar issues stemming from his mothers death at a very impressionable age. Meghan, I think has played a blinder on Harry - tapping into his deepest needs and fears and presented herself as his saviour.

I think it's thinly veiled blackmail too. Not even that thinly. She should never have encouraged her friends to speak to People and the lawsuit was a big mistake.

@SunsetBoulevard3

Really great analysis.
M was ashamed of her father and feared Harry might change his mind if they met. Harry himself should have insisted on meeting his future father in law. It’s basic decency

Meghan bet the farm to get herself hitched to Harry, she wasn’t going to risk anything stop her from getting that ring on her finger.

When she arrived in England in 2017, there was still no proposal, there obviously was an understatement that they would get married but nothing was for sure. No wonder in the engagement interview she said “can I say yes now” before Harry could even get the words out....

Regarding Thomas Markle and money, @NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite did an excellent summary again.

We underestimate how expensive healthcare is in the US. Even if you have insurance, not everything is free. If Thomas heart attack cost him almost $200k no, wonder he is terrified.

(FWIW, $20k as a percentage of her $4million fortune is actually like $200 as a proportion of $40k) peanuts. Especially as she would give him gifts of $5,000 and he said he occasionally asked for $2k.

Re: the unprocessed shadow side as mentioned by @SunsetBoulevard3 yes that came out several times especially when he was saying “taking care of Daddy” or whatever it was.

Interestingly I would say that Meghan’s shadow side seems to come out with her Instagram posts. “Look at meeee! I’m so kind, beautiful. Altruistic” Her jealousy of Kate is incredible. No wonder the Cambridges distances themselves. I think that was the simple reason behind the split between the 2 households. Meghan was jealous of Kate (and given how fond Harry & Kate were of each other) she did not want Kate next door.

I think I need to watch this documentary

Morning, all. Hope everyone is OK?

Just catching up with the thread. My apologies for not getting back to NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite sooner about my one day as a bodyguard for Princess Anne. Don't want to go off-topic but if I mention that she is Harry's Auntie, does that keep me within the rules?

I was in prison (ahem, in my professional capacity) and PA dropped in for a visit. When I say "dropped in", it was by helicopter but this was around the time of the Brighton bombings and well before climate change was a thing, so it was not only Allowed but Really Quite Sensible.

I was selected to be her bodyguard while PA was in the prison because her protection officers weren't allowed to bring their firearms in, plus they didn't have the "powers of a constable" that I had. Anyway...

PA is tiny, slim, elegant, with beautiful skin and a wicked sense of humour. That last bit came in useful.

As PA toured the prison, a prisoner decided to protest about the food, climbed on top of a table next to a big window which she was due to pass imminently, stripped off completely and waved to the princess. He didn't even use all of his fingers when he waved.

So rude.

PA didn't flicker. Didn't even break her stride. She just gave the prisoner a charming smile and a little wave (using all of her fingers, of course, because she is a lady), carried on till we went round the corner and then absolutely howled with laughter.

That's when I stopped being a republican.

Sorry for the interruption.

As you were.

I am lurking and trying to keep up with these threads but I have to thank whoever it was posted a link to the A Very Royal Narcissist series of blog posts on narcsite. The incredibly detailed forensic scrutiny of Meghan as narcissist and Harry as empath,

Could someone please link again? I missed this

Yank in UK.
He will have health insurance through Medicare in the US. It's actually a system that works. Probably sine CO pay on prescriptions and in the US someone his age and health profile will be on some. I don't think health care payments will explain selling the photos to the press.

I can't see how he could have ever come to Buck House if he showed he was capable of cutting notes deals. He'd have sold the Queen's knickers, I venture, given the chance.

SingingLily that's a brilliant story.

@SingingLily

That has got to be the best royal story ever!

A very Royal Narcissist

I was curious as to how the Thomas Markle interview would be perceived in the US. So I switched my VPN towards the US; googled and got these articles

The Daily Beast - Thomas Markle wants a payoff

ET online - Meghan owes me

The perception in the UK, where we actually saw the interview, is one of mainly sympathy for Thomas Markle.

However, in the US, is is seen as a money grabbing old man who is blackmailing Meghan. So that feeds into her victim stance and so she needs do no more to win over her US target market.

His references to her playing prostitutes and strippers were completely unnecessary and says a lot more about him than her. I think that was a slap down.

Agree he's attempting to blackmail her.

I have no sympathy for a parent who does this to their child. Would anyone on this thread do it to theirs?

I can't blame her friends going to People magazine either. He was already running to the media at the drop of a hat before the People article.

Equating his support of his child with the support she subsequently gave him is messed up. That's how it works.

Her jealousy of Kate is incredible. No wonder the Cambridges distances themselves. I think that was the simple reason behind the split between the 2 households. Meghan was jealous of Kate (and given how fond Harry & Kate were of each other) she did not want Kate next door.

Why would she be jealous of Kate? They’re completely different people! This thread is getting a little silly now.

CurlyWurlyTwirly thank you

Morning all. Sorry not posted yesterday as at work and so tired getting over the lurgy. Watched most of the TM thing before I fell asleep ( post viral fatigue). Hope everyone else is well.
Thought he came across well, and whilst I think he probably has now put the nail in the coffin with his relationship with MM, I do think he came across better than expected. Thought it was awful that neither Meghan or Harry didn't go and visit him ( if true), and offer him some help in dealing with press.
Also did anyone notice that in the bits of the letter that was seen, MM commented on Samantha, saying she barely knew her? I actually think the sister is a complete bitch, and getting her 15 mins of fame, and likely a lot of her commitment have made the relationship between MM and her Dad worse. Interesting she has now changed her name to Markle.

CurlyWurly thanks again for that link. I’m actually quite shocked at what I’ve read on that site as I’ve never really read anything about the narc / empath relationship before. It’s really helped me to understand why I’m so obsessed by the relationship of PH and MM and Megxit... I now think it’s partly because I recognise a similar relationship in my own life. PH will be terribly damaged by this I think. It’s fascinating reading but also really quite painful.

Samantha Markle just comes across the very jealous older sister. I can't imagine that MM did have much to do with her before

Morning all. I was out last night so haven't seen the interview yet. NotEverything thank you for the summary. (Meghan worked as a prostitute??? I had no idea) Catherine it's shit that you had that experience. I'm really sorry. Like yolofish I have a friend who has been with her abusive husband for about thirty years. She is the loveliest person - intelligent, funny, attractive, otherwise independent and self-sufficient. But she will never leave her husband. She is an emotional hostage. I'm glad you got out.

phpolly no, she absolutely did not. She apparently played the role of a prostitute when she was an actor.

Thanks for the summaries and insights. Seems like a very damaging childhood for Meghan and one where money is the main emotional currency. Explains a lot. I agree that she should have included him in the wedding preparations and gives him support. It's not as if Harry was short of time, money or staff to send.

The thing that annoyed me about the programme was the way they just didnt press him on certain things that you'd argue the programme was meant to address or why bother? In a way. Did the exchange with Harry and Meghan happen over text or was it by phone? "There is evidence Meghan was living with her mother then [contrary to what he was say.]" What evidence then? Yes, I know it's channel five but it's irritating. There were other examples too.