Harry and Meghan (and the Electric Car Market)

[TheMustressMhor]

…… with an occasional look at wild garlic.

Thanks to MrsHuggett for the thread title.

This is Thread Ten, unbelievably.

we'll suddenly see more pictures of Archie, you know, that baby they wanted to protect and not let us see? He'll suddenly become their money maker with baby fashion deals etc.

So what can we glean from Harry’s speech.... the media is the only reason that they started all this? I know Harry has always had a difficult relationship with the press but a bit bi-polar in my opinion, one minute larking around and the next bitting their heads off. Some (only some) articles have called them out on statements they have made and rather than look at themselves they have taken it as bullying. I don’t know, I’m not sure I’m buying it, it may have been a factor but if it bothers you so much that you make this monumental decision why continue in the public eye, why have we seen Meghan visiting places and it being reported on. Yes I know it was copied from Instagram but they aren’t so naive to think it won’t make the press and that the press won’t talk to place and people they have met.

Anyway, it seems the door is left open which makes me happy.

BirdandSparrow supportive would have been beside him this week while this is sorted, even if not seen in public. The manner in which this has been done smacks of an ultimatum somewhere.

figgy “ I remain convinced they could’ve done more good staying within the royal family and him particularly continuing with his charity and military patronages“ exactly. what on earth do they think they can do better from outside the RF?

Poor Harry.She reminds me of my sons's ex (thank God ) girlfriend. She manipulated him ,abused him destroyed him and walked away.We could do nothing but pick up the pieces when it was over.It took four years .

Can we please just ignore the self righteous bossy boots that keep arriving to dish out their telling offs. We don't need to defend this thread. Anyone who reads it and the ones before it, can see that it's mainly sensible discussion with the occasional lurid surmise thrown in - just like pretty much every other thread on this MN - anything too outlandish has been squashed straight away. I'd love to see just total non-acknowledgment of those who are trying to police the discussion. So abusive and dictatorial some of them that I actually laugh at their inability to see themselves while telling others how horrible they are.

Totally agree Wendy

Hear hear, Wendy

H&M May have to change the Sussex Brand

Reading between the lines, given Charles funding then for a year, it looks like they are on a year’s probation.
As they have to edit their Sussex Royal website as they are no longer using the HRH, surely this is the time for a proper rebrand.
I would have more respect if they just called it The Harry & Meghan Sussex Foundation. And renamed their Instagram Harry&MeghanSussex. ( I’m not sure if you can do that; but they have all their followers, which I guess is the key thing)

If they want to be modern, then linking themselves to a 1000 yo institution in a different country, seems mad. The RF gave them their extremely generous launch pad. Time to cut the apron strings and earn some respect as well as money.

supportive would have been beside him this week while this is sorted, even if not seen in public. The manner in which this has been done smacks of an ultimatum somewhere. It might be, but you have no idea at all really. Myabe she's a raging narcissist who snared a poor dopey prince and persuaded him to give it all up? I don't know.
But neither do you. Maybe he's wanted this for a long time and finding her and feeling happy with her has given him the push to do it?
Time will tell whether it's a happy or unhappy marriage.

we'll suddenly see more pictures of Archie, you know, that baby they wanted to protect and not let us see? He'll suddenly become their money maker with baby fashion deals etc.
I agree this will happen.

From Harry's speech last night it seemed to me he was attributing blame to the media. Will H&M now happily pose, even for free, with Archie in the Canadian press (just to give 2 fingers to the UK press)?

Also, why do we now know who 2 of Archie's godparents are? Why couldn't they just have said who they are in the lead up or after Archie's christening?

Hang on, am I missing something? All these quotes are given in the article, but no source? Who the hell is saying this stuff, and how do they know? And who cares anyway?

I think they are just a couple of human beings doing their best like most of us. Like most of us, there’s only so much crap they can take. This article is a good illustration of said crap. Why should they hang around to be abused?

We don't need to defend this thread. Anyone who reads it and the ones before it, can see that it's mainly sensible discussion

Really? Sensible discussion?, Blame, name calling, character assassination, nastiness.... You really need to look to yourselves.

Don't worry, I'm off, you carry on with your bitchfest

Meghan has been quiet for a couple of days, I wonder what she's thinking of the deal

In the DM there's a very interesting article about Jessica Mulroney and her relationship with Meghan. I think behind the scenes she's played quite a large driving force behind recent decisions from the Sussexes. Not least because she's a brand developer or some such, I can see her being guiding them in regards to brand Sussex

Just throwing this into the ring. But why can't Harry & Meghan dip into their combined fortune of approx £38 million to buy a gorgeous home for a few million. Then live off the interest from the remaining £35 million, whilst doing various charity work? They can charge for their charity appearances, but then donate their fees to charity because they have £35 fucking million in the bank

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/19/there-is-a-reason-why-royals-demonised-but-wont-read-all-about-it-prince-harry-meghan-markle

Maybe they will peaceanddove. This is exactly what they claim to want isn't it? A quiet peaceful life working in areas close to their hearts. Maybe it will pan out exactly like that. We shall see...

bonnesvacances have you reported the latest live thread? if enough people do, maybe they will take it seriously? I just have, will let you know what they say.

I found this gem on the Meghan worshippers' thread.

They are a demented bunch.

What are your views on William and Harry having healed the rift after a two year feud, supposedly encouraged by Kate and Meghan. Does it make you doubt whether reports of Kate and Meghan falling out were true?

The rift was apparently healed before last Monday's summit to sort out Harry's future.

PA has been discussed in all the previous threads, and is definitely not condoned

@notmoresheep

No, sorry. That's not what I meant. I wasn't suggesting any of the regular posters HAD condoned what PA was doing. It was more a light hearted question leading on from the previous thread where someone had said, "when we start a new thread, let's put in the title that we accept that H&M are not the only Royals that have messed up to try and dissusade the people who keep coming on and asking why we there are 10 threads about H&M when what PA has done is worse because they are just derailing the discussion and are perfectly free to discuss PA in separate threads if they want."

Several people also said that they thought that the people on here were being unfairly painted as PA supporters because they were discussing H&M. I don't know where that came from and it's not in the least bit logical. I get that there are people that are angry about PA but I don't get why they should think we should be discussing PA instead of H&M. For one thing, the PA situation may end up in court so as a PP said, there are perfectly good reasons why there is very little info online or in the media but it could prejudice the case. I think people need to accept that there is not enough material about PA to fuel 10 threads and that it should be parked for now.

In any case H&M are much more interesting IMHO because every day it seems like they are digging themselves further and further into a whole.

I will be following their forays into forming a production/media company with interest. I seem to recall that similar efforts by Edward and Sophie came to an abrupt and sticky financial end.

BirdandSparrow you’re right, I don’t know. And agree that he’s probably wanted out from the media glare for a very long time. However leaving baby to put on a PR display while knowing the giant shitstorm he’s dealing with at home doesn’t look remotely supportive.

@soberfabulous I have reported individual posts where MN guidelines appear to me to be broken and these have been deleted .

I don't think MN are consistent in their getting posters to follow Talk guidelines - they ammended one of these thread titles to remove the phrasing about " doing it all for charidee" but are happy to let another thread title
Tax payers0 Megan&Harry laughing all the way to the bank stand.

But of course MN rely on posters to report offensive posts and these threads seem to be echo chambers .Anyone posting an opposing view or ( biggest sin ) criticising the tone /bias of other posters is v heavily castigated .I think most posters just move away and leave them all to get on with it .So there are few ppl to report posts .

I still read and post because I have too much time on my hands /don't want to get on with housework and because I hope that the odd poster might read another view and think again .

But it's heavy going - witness the exchange btwn posters about the inclusion of other light hearted references to electric cars etc and the obtuseness shown when anyone remarks on the volume of posts on H&M as opposed to PA .

we'll remove posts we consider to contain personal attacks,
We will also delete any posts that we think are just seriously unpleasant
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MeghanMountbattenSausage apologies, I also hadn’t had my coffee yet. And you didn’t put ‘lighthearted’ in your post 😁