Harry and Meghan (and the Electric Car Market)

[TheMustressMhor]

…… with an occasional look at wild garlic.

Thanks to MrsHuggett for the thread title.

This is Thread Ten, unbelievably.

I think they might habe found comfort in knowing people were praying for her? And them?

I don't know, they were so young. I agree as an adult you would appreciate it but I think for two young boys trying to hold it together, it could have been too much.

Just..
Odd though? That they were expected to go at all? I was pretty horrified tbh

The thing is Meghan may find she has traded one gilded cage for another.
Time will tell I guess. At least she can wear what she wants now and less restrictions but they will still have a level of criticism and scrutiny.

However, he's gone now...
And no doubt will earn $$$$$$$$$$
I do see a similarity with his ancestor Edward the ex king

And in other news:

Tonight we had steak and red peppers casseroled in redcurrant sauce with baby new potatoes.

Man, I stuffed myself.

Completely agree with all the pps who say Harry is locked in child mode. Classic baby of the family syndrome.

I find the dynamic between H&M is fascinating, and it's one I've seen many times before. In many ways she appears to look to him to be her protector but in reality she is calling all the shots. He is allowed to think he is making his own decisions but actually he is being skilfully steered.

I have to say that I am worried about Harry now.

He has cut himself off from his family, physically and in some ways, emotionally.

I do not think that the "love of a good woman" will turn out to be worth it, even though I do not, personally, consider Meghan to be a particularly good woman.

She seems only to desire fame and fortune.

Oh i must confess i missed that bt i did see a lovely documentary on Princess Alice and i just remember thinking 'good for you!' she managed to battle schizophrenia in a sanatorium and being hidden by the RF, work hard in Greece for charity including feeding the poor out of her own home and food rations, not fussed about blowing her own trumpet and not fussed about being criticised for her lifestyle. I wis i could remember the documentary. I wish i'd seen The Crown too now.

The Crown is on Netflix, JulieWalters.

Princess alice was a truly good person.
Treated horrifically, poor woman.
More should be known about her!

Camilla comment and facial expression here:

twitter.com/LizzieITV/status/1219306862631424002

Could be interpreted many ways, which I think was clever of her.

IIRC the public weren't baying for W&H to be seen, they were baying for her maj to come to London from Balmoral. She stayed there to provide some kind of stability and support for W&H but that seemd to pass a lot of the great unwashed by

Agree with those saying Harry is stuck at 12. He's been wheeling out the Diana excuse for some pretty poor behaviour for 23 years.

sorry that was to @Imstinkyeddie

MustressOfMohr

Unless the RF are playing the long game with Harry.

You want out? Ok you go completely alone and see how far you get

If true then it's a harsh tactic of allowing him enough rope but it may be to get Harry to open his eyes as to how much of this is for his own benefit and how well he has thought this through. Nothing wrong with going alone and funding yourself but I suspect they have concerns about another party's real agenda which maybe currently dressed up to be about independence but may well turn out to be divide and rule. It was when Meghan left him alone that I thought how much is this about partnership?

I've read pretty extensively about Edward and Wallis Simpson.
Fascinating, awful and deeply sad at the same time.
Ditto the mitfords.
Edward was also hugely damaged by his childhood and "relationship" with his parents. His reaction to his poor brother John was very telling of his inability to feel empathy of any kind.
I actually ended up feeling quite sorry for Wallis.
(Will I feel the same about M in years to come?...)
She absolutely did not want to marry Edward. She was happy with her boring 2nd husband but feared being poor due to her and her mothers childhood dependence on a wealthy uncle.
At one point her mother ran a boarding house.
Thelma furness - one of his many mistresses - introduced them and on her return from looking after her very ill child she was unceremoniously dumped. Not even in person.
Edward had never had anyone say no to him before Wallis.
His own father thought him "mad" (I think today he would be dx as on the asd spectrum..)

Sorry!! but I do find posh folk utterly fascinating

It was when Meghan left him alone that I thought how much is this about partnership?

Indeed.

Knowing how vulnerable he is, it was a crappy thing to do.

"She absolutely did not want to marry Edward."

I often see this-but then she should have got out much sooner!

She had a husband & a home that they could have returned to.

Some of they letters they wrote to each other-they were so spiteful!

Nasty nicknames for people & his endless whining on about Wallis not be HRH.

I see Serena Williams' husband, Alexis Ohanian, hasn't denied his tweet on 13th Jan was about Meghan ( unless I've missed it).

Seeing we're airing our inner armchair psycho analyzers -

Harry stuck in 12 year old boy mode - yes.
Conflicted between duty and and wanting a normal life - yes.
Deep seated hatred and mistrust of the press - yep.

I would add that when i was idly thinking about this situation i thought how ironic that he ended up marrying someone almost perfectly bound to attract the gutter press to an extent that he would feel justified in fleeing? Mixed race, older than him, opinionated, strong, and from another country. Lots for the press to pick on and cause enough of a hurtful shit storm for him to then escape from.

In his subconscious did he see this panning out this way exactly like it has?

In his subconscious did he see this panning out this way exactly like it has?

I wondered that too.

totally agree Imstinkyeddie and yes she was badly treated. Exiled, battled schizophrenia, locked away out of sight when actually she was a kind hard working self sacrificing nun. Probably one of the best examples of the RF.

TheMustressMhor thank you for the signposting The Crown.

Yes I wish she had been there for Harry and not just segue out with I must get back to Archie he's all alone in Canada.... eat my dust

He basically left her no choice.
It was the 1930s.
Her 2nd dh had finally had enough - their affair was all over the US snd European press.
He "did the decent thing" and went to the coast with a woman and was "discovered".
🙄
He married an old friend of Wallis afterwards.
Yes, their letters are vile and quite infantile at times.
Their nn for HMQ was "shirley temple" and "cake" for the QM....

Yes. Uncle David did seem to spend a disproportionate amount of time being deeply annoyed because Wallis wasn't an HRH.

I mean - what does it matter? They had loads of sycophantic friends and although they also moaned that they were short of cash, they lived in a big house and had plenty of servants.

They weren't exactly living on scraps of bread, were they?

MistressMhor

You are making me very dissatisfied with what I am eating for dinner these days. I must get the cookbooks out and make more effort!

I agree @Laiste. It's a very strange choice of lifestyle and wife for him. If he wanted a quiet life, away from the press he blames for his mother's death then he could have had that. Instead he's following the same road, with the same relationship with the press.

Its bizarre to say the least.

Edward and Wallis both met very sad ends imo. Edward died of LC as did HMQs father. He begged to be allowed to be buried at frogmore.

In fact it has been alleged that Wallis was financially abused in her later years by her lawyer.

Alone, blind, demented, bedridden, in a beautiful gilded room (shudder)