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The royal family

Harry and Meghan (and the Electric Car Market)

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TheMustressMhor · 19/01/2020 23:30

…… with an occasional look at wild garlic.

Thanks to MrsHuggett for the thread title.

This is Thread Ten, unbelievably.

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 20/01/2020 18:45

Yep as pp’s have said; Meghan needs to give Harry some space to just chill.
Her behaviour in the next few months, will show how supportive she actually is.
He really has made huge sacrifices for her, and the least she can do is wait and let the guy catch his breath.
The whole situation is up for review in 12 months, so I bet Meghan will be chomping at the bit to start raking in the cash.

I wonder whether Harry will have some kind of a Burnout. Since he meet her it has just been mad. The long distance relationship, the quick engagement and wedding, new baby, 2 massive tours and all this ( imho uneccessary ) drama

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 20/01/2020 18:47

Camilla was briefly interviewed on the news after an engagement
That pause was so telling

phpolly · 20/01/2020 18:47

sorry - Clarence House!

Horehound · 20/01/2020 18:48

I haven't been on these threads yet but here's my tuppence.
I think it's all very sad but I am pretty sure the press hounded then both, ripped her apart and he seems so protective over her that he's called it a day to the RF
Isn't that a Disney story in itself?! Prince gives up his royal life for average Joe because if True Love.
I wish them the best even though I am sad about what's happening. I'd put my family first too.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 20/01/2020 18:48

Camilla
“Will you miss Harry and Meghan?”

eggandonion · 20/01/2020 18:51

Is Charles back in Scotland? Camilla's kids seem pretty good sorts> Is Andrew Parker Bowles still around?
I am having a spa day on Wednesday, hopefully involving a lot of old Hello magazines. I have a voucher that needs used.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 20/01/2020 18:53

Camilla said so much by saying so little - & I think with the hint of a smirk!

The80sweregreat · 20/01/2020 18:53

It is a bit much to say ' we're living here now and you can pay for the privilege '!

phpolly · 20/01/2020 18:54

thanks Curly. wow - where's the [flames] emoji when you need it?

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 20/01/2020 19:06

Camilla did look a bit like 'wtf did you just say.'

peaceanddove · 20/01/2020 19:18

Meghan is a perfectly intelligent woman who I'm quite sure never for a moment thought she was going to live in a fairytale castle

Except they specifically requested to live in Windsor Castle of course.

peaceanddove · 20/01/2020 19:21

Well tbh they didn't turn their noses up did they-the workers were moved out & it was converted back to a house

I would say they most definitely did turn their nose up at it because despite the £2.5 million restoration and organic paint finish they have rarely spent a night in it.

FlickingVees · 20/01/2020 19:22

I think MM must be the only Disney Princess who kissed a prince and turned him into a frog.

AmIbeingTreasonable · 20/01/2020 19:25

"Harry is still upset with his father", so upset that he's happy to take several millions of continued support!ConfusedHmm

NumbersStation · 20/01/2020 19:27

@FlickingVees

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Myimaginarycathasfleas · 20/01/2020 19:33

HM, I think Camilla just needed a second's thinking time before she said something that might get her into trouble. The royals usually try to avoid those types of questions but she was caught on the hop. No answer would have probably been worse.

At least she didn't wink this time!

kinsss · 20/01/2020 19:33

Charlie has kept very quiet on all this, probably because he has listened to his gut feeling/advisers. But his silence has been noted by me anyway!

GuytheBeagle · 20/01/2020 19:35

armchair psychologist alert.

I've watched the speech from last night and it was both sad and troubling.

H ( as I call him Grin) seems stuck. Stuck as a victim. There was a lot wrong with that speech ( not least the oddly inaccurate read out reproduced in the media) but what struck me most was the phrase ' as you have watched me grow up' .

Admittedly he was addressing the audience beyond the event, but he is now 35, a father, a married man.

Harry has been failed dreadfully in helping him come to terms with the death of his mother, who was herself, partly responsible for her own demise. That must be a near-unbearable truth for him. And also, by the way, for his brother, who let's not forget is a mere two years older than he was when she died.

There is a communication model called victim-perpetrator-rescuer

I suggest Harry is the first, he perceives the second as the media, and the third he perceives as his wife.

The first (Harry as victim) is correct. the second ( média as perpetrator) is in his own mind an inalienable truth, but in reality has been explosively exacerbated by the very actions of both of them.

I suggest he wrongly perceives M as his rescuer and his Mummy ( for whom he 'has waited all his life') I suspect that she has exploited that, probably even without knowing it.

And the réal rescuer?His very elderly 'commander in chief' and his estranged family, from whom he is , as we speak, jetting away.

It is all very sad.

He has behaved disgracefully, but my main sympathies remain with him. He is so very vulnerable.

Time will tell, I suppose. I do hope - genuinely - that it works out for them both.

eggandonion · 20/01/2020 19:37

Imagine if Charles had married Camilla to begin with! I wonder if they were trying to find a suitable foreign princess, they were in short supply. Especially protestant ones, which was important.

Chocpear · 20/01/2020 19:37

If you think about why she had a drunk driver instead of proper security, the finger points to the RF who denied her this when she divorced.

@FlickingVees, a few times this week I read the Palace wanted Diana to use royal security but she refused. In the end she agreed she would use it when with the boys and at Kensington Palace but the rest of the time she chose to organise her own security.

ajandjjmum · 20/01/2020 19:38

I feel very sorry for Charles - words I thought I'd never say! He has really tried to welcome Meghan into the family, paid over the odds for her and Harry (they cost more than the Cambridges at one point!), fought their corner re. church marriage for divorcee.

Now they've gone - and all they seem to be worried about is how much more dosh they can get out of him.

Dongdingdong · 20/01/2020 19:40

I don’t know how people can say they love Camilla. How she (and Charles) treated Diana and those two boys was a disgrace.

Planeplane · 20/01/2020 19:40

I think MM must be the only Disney Princess who kissed a prince and turned him into a frog.

Grin
SunsetBoulevard3 · 20/01/2020 19:44

Guy

Absolutely spot on.
What struck me too is that he is stuck in the 'Diana's son' mode. In a sense he hasn't grown up, he's still 12. He seems to see himself only as he is reflected back by others - the public. It's well known that people who experience trauma are often frozen at the age at which they experience the trauma. I do think Meghan is playing Mummy, much like Camilla does to Charles.
I was struck also that the reason she seems to have had a rocky relationship with her father as a teenager and young woman was that she had to mother him. I wonder if this is a model which she has grown accustomed to and it's become a default position for her? That didn't seem to be the case with Trevor, but who knows?
This desire to 'save the world' that she seems to have is also the impulse of a Rescuer.
It's all very complicated. My feeling is that she she has been drawn to Harry to save him from himself and so that the two of them can go on a crusade to rescue the world. It's been more than she could handle, and she's found herself vilified. I suspect she will soon tire of the relationship and his neediness, and move on.
Incidentally, a Rescuer can still be a narcissist.

kinsss · 20/01/2020 19:46

Camilla is marmite. I don't rate her much she is just who she is. She and Charlie live apart AFAIK. Great recipe for harmony I'd say.