Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?

[TheMustressMhor]

This is Thread Eight in a series which I did not imagine would last more than one.

Meghan's friends are now writing on social media that she has been fortunate to "escape the clutches" of the Royal Family.

We, who care enough for the Queen that we are appalled by Meghan's blatant disrespect for the Crown (and the family which embraced her) are still reeling as we go from revelation to revelation. This bizarre and unprecedented situation has unfolded over a period of just eight days.

We are now beginning to see what Meghan's likely agenda was. It seems that abandoning the UK was her plan even prior to the wedding - a wedding which cost the British people £20,000,000.

Not many people actually begrudged paying that £20,000,000. But some were prescient enough to say that the marriage would not last and that Meghan would abandon this country once she had a child.

She has. She has fulfilled those prognostications amply.

It was just rather...quicker than perhaps we had imagined...…. and a good deal more brutal. Cries of "racism" have abounded - cries which are simply not justified.

What will happen next? Meghan has gone to Canada, a country which does not seem particularly keen to foot the huge bill for security which her presence requires. She is dropping in on charities for disadvantaged women, almost unannounced, without the backing or knowledge of Buckingham Palace. It is cringeworthy and embarrassing in the extreme.

Prince Harry seems to be lost in the maelstrom of public opinion. What will happen next? Will Meghan announce a second pregnancy?

And is the RF okay?

I suspect the deadlock is over who will pay for security, how much they will continue to get (if at all) from the duchy, and titles. There's a lot to be discussed with respective governments too and I doubt that will be over quickly. I suspect any announcement will be a vague "discussions are progressing well" or something. Meanwhile, we will continue to get coded messages / blackmail via the sussex intagram.

According to the Mail Online:

"Buckingham Palace was expected to release a statement on the couple 'imminently' about the terms of the couple's arrangement after Her Majesty ordered her courtiers to come up with a plan 'in days, not weeks'.
But it is understood officials are yet to iron out several key issues, including the Sussexes' security, titles and future finances."

The bold emphasis is mine. At the same time, the Express is reporting that there are still complicated matters to navigate about copyright, future business interests and branding, with the Queen wanting the Palace to have the right of "forensic examination" over any business venture that involves the Royal brand. The Express's source says it's going to take considerably longer than six months to sort all of that out.

Quite a difference in timescale, then, since MM last did a runner. She took the posh juicing machine (or something similar) with her, posted the rings back et voilà! Job done.

Not quite as simple this time.

I honestly can’t imagine that the queen would be so stupid as to allow any taxpayer money to fund their lifestyle going forward. It would be seriously detrimental to the popularity of the RF and I just can’t see it happening. I will be shocked.

I don’t get it honestly!
What are they negotiating ?
They want to be independent why are they asking for help.
This reads like a court settlement.

Are those couture clothes hers to sell? Who paid for them in the first place?

That thought occurred to me too. If it's the foreign office or any other department of state they surely belong to the taxpayer.

Does anyone remember the strange comment from Harry about giving MM the family she never had? I can't quite remember the exact words but it felt strange at the time.

Yep. Caused quite the strir IIRC expecially as even the most limited research turned up pictures of MM at family occasions. It also has echoes of Diana's brother's words at her funeral about the Spencers being Wills and Haz's 'blood family' who were going to ensure their souls sang. Guess he might not have envisaged cryptic messages via Stone Roses numbers though

They are going to keep their titles, I’m sure of it. Surely they can’t be stripped?!

On a previous thread a poster remarked that Meghan not wearing her wedding ring at her NT visit on the day when their announcement was made (it was that evening and she was wearing it earlier that day at Canada House)was like a warning shot to Harry. Press the button and make the announcement or else. I'm inclined to believe that and in some ways I feel a bit sorry for him. I think he's caught between a rock and a hard place.

I really believe it was a deliberate action as she held her hands in such a way that it was bound to be noticed and photographed.

Thanks so much Jeans. Wow - a lot of sardonic laughter from the producer on the subject of MM and her ambitions! There must be a few stories floating around that we don't know (yet...). Wonder if the bit about another child is true.

it's strange to me how it's all taking so long

It's strange to me how anyone, including the Queen, thought it could be agreed by now! There are massive swathes of detail that need looking at if both sides are to get an agreement they're ok with (has anyone asked..?) Deals done in a hurry will be someone getting shafted.

Without their titles, their celebrity value and thus future lifestyle sinks like a stone. They must know that.

Maybe Brenda will strip them of Sussex and leave Harry with Earl of Dumb arton?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/live-feed/fox-air-harry-meghan-special-tmz-1270441

This looks interesting.

@Parker231

he hasn’t lost his father, grandparents and brother . He’s spending some time in another country. It’s 25 years since I’ve lived in the same country as my parents and sister but we’re still a close family.
This isn't about you though. You may have had a good relationship when you were in the same country as your family. Harry and Meghan are not close to his family whilst here. In the circumstances I don't think moving abroad will suddenly improve his relationships.

I agree that she deliberately removed her weddings rings as a warning to Harry e.g. "I am fucking off back to Canada tonight either with or without you. And if you want to follow me then you fucking need to come up with the goods. I want a massive pay off, I want a massive palatial beach mansion, I want to keep my HRH and I want to never spend any time with your fucking family ever again. Alright?"

Queen wanting the Palace to have the right of "forensic examination" over any business venture that involves the Royal brand.

Quite rightly, imo. It's an argument for not letting them keep their titles.

As for how much PC will pay, I wonder how much disposable income he has? A lot of it I think goes back into the Duchy and his other projects, such as the Prince's Trust and Dumfries House. It's one thing to be willing to fund them to enable them to carry out royal duties. Quite another to pay them to doss around across the Atlantic doing nothing to benefit the UK or the RF. He may think he has better uses for his money.

I wonder if Archie's education is part of the negotiations?

@ BackyardChickens in theory they could be if they are not going to undertake royal duties however it is unlikely after what happened with Diana.

he hasn’t lost his father, grandparents and brother . He’s spending some time in another country. It’s 25 years since I’ve lived in the same country as my parents and sister but we’re still a close family.

Glad to hear it, Parker, but unless you have some surprising news to share, I'm guessing that you don't undertake official engagements on behalf of your granny and accompanied by royal protection officers from the Met and funded by the taxpayer.

This is a family tragedy but it's also a constitutional nightmare. Let's not conflate the two.

The first is not really any of our business, however much we sympathise (or otherwise). The latter is very much our business.

The charity gave her a necklace worth £1,300. Yet it was a surprise visit. And she didn’t actually visit the charity, just met with its administrators at a hotel.

Confused.

From what I've read, the designer of the necklace, a First Nations artist, gave it to her as a souvenir of her visit.

Thus highlighting the exhibition of her work at a nearby gallery.

Think it was the climate change girls charity that gifted her a necklace Froq and I think they were contacted the day before so probably rushed to prepare for her.

Queen wanting the Palace to have the right of "forensic examination" over any business venture that involves the Royal brand.
I think this will be the main stumbling block in the negotiations. H&M will view it as still being under the control of the RF.

The whole saga has all the makings of a made-for-tv American film.

H&M will view it as still being under the control of the RF.

Exactly so.

I imagine it will come down to a choice. Forensic examination plus your HRH title. Or no forensic examination and no HRH title.

The HRH is directly linked to "representative of HMQ" plus "internationally protected person" plus the right (or otherwise) to earn money with or without forensic examination.

MM wants the cake and the halfpenny, as my Irish granny used to say.

I don't believe the secret child stuff, but there is a picture online that looks very much like a wedding picture and apparently there are annulment records too. I don't think it can be true though, the only media that reported on it was the bloody National Enquirer, and surely the rest of the papers would have had a field day if it was real.
Ah, the Enquirer, one of the tabs that the US doesn't have.

H&M will view it as still being under the control of the RF.

Normal business practice, surely. John Lewis or M&S or any other brand name you care to mention wouldn't allow a former employee to start a new business trading on their brand.

Surely Harry's not so dim that he can't see that it's not on?