Harry and Meghan Resigning (Act 6 Scene 2) Is Everyone Okay?

[TheMustressMhor]

This is Thread Eight in a series which I did not imagine would last more than one.

Meghan's friends are now writing on social media that she has been fortunate to "escape the clutches" of the Royal Family.

We, who care enough for the Queen that we are appalled by Meghan's blatant disrespect for the Crown (and the family which embraced her) are still reeling as we go from revelation to revelation. This bizarre and unprecedented situation has unfolded over a period of just eight days.

We are now beginning to see what Meghan's likely agenda was. It seems that abandoning the UK was her plan even prior to the wedding - a wedding which cost the British people £20,000,000.

Not many people actually begrudged paying that £20,000,000. But some were prescient enough to say that the marriage would not last and that Meghan would abandon this country once she had a child.

She has. She has fulfilled those prognostications amply.

It was just rather...quicker than perhaps we had imagined...…. and a good deal more brutal. Cries of "racism" have abounded - cries which are simply not justified.

What will happen next? Meghan has gone to Canada, a country which does not seem particularly keen to foot the huge bill for security which her presence requires. She is dropping in on charities for disadvantaged women, almost unannounced, without the backing or knowledge of Buckingham Palace. It is cringeworthy and embarrassing in the extreme.

Prince Harry seems to be lost in the maelstrom of public opinion. What will happen next? Will Meghan announce a second pregnancy?

And is the RF okay?

[GlitchStitch]

I'm seriously irritated seeing her sitting in that car grinning with the protection officer that we are all still paying for. It's one thing for official tours, but do they get any say about being stuck out in Canada for the duration of this ridiculous stand-off?

[CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook]

Morning wow these threads moves so fast. Hope everyone is Ok.

Catching up on the tabloids this morning, seeing the video provocatively and childishly paired with the song, seeing Harry's beaming face when the reporter asked him yesterday how talks about his future were going, reading the derogatory stories about the Toxic RF (the family that gave her a fucking title) seeing Meghan's defiant smile as she drove to pick up her friend from the airport, I have had a slight shift in my opinion.

It's both of them. They are made for each other.

H might be being played for all his worth by a sophisticated and cynical social climber (I'm being nice) who targeted him, but he's been all too willing to go along with it. They have both been indulged and made excuses for all their lives and had people clean up their mistakes and unfortunately are surrounded by sycophants, willing to tell them what they want to hear so they can benefit by proxy.

My sympathy for H has evaporated.

What we're seeing is selfishness plain and simple. Bourne out of the culmination of resentment at being a no.2. He wants to go away for the sake of his mental health? Fine. Do it. But leave the trappings that go with it and go live on the proceeds of your substantial wealth, instead of trying to set yourself up as a proxy rival 'king' in Canada and the US.

He doesn't want to support the Crown, ie his brother. He wants to be King Of The People. His wife wants to be the adored Queen of the World aka Michelle Obama with steroids via shortcut.

I think if they are allowed to do this and keep their titles, then it will make the existing RF redundant.

Call me a Tin Hat conspiracy theorist, but I now think someone or something is trying to undermine the RF. I have always found MM's rapid rise to the inner society dodgy. I have no idea who thought it was appropriate she date H. And I have no idea why they were allowed to get married so quickly.

This and the timing of PA revelations are suspicious in my mind. Many people see this as an attempt to deflect attention form PA, but I see it differently.

I note this decision has been taken while the iron was hot, while the RF were still reeling from the PA furore. I am not in any way attempting to excuse PA, he's a scumbag, but I do feel he was targeted by Ghislaine and Epstein to deliberately undermine him, with a view to the future... And who is protecting her?

The Queen at 92? 94? with her husband in ill health, decision making is likely to be compromised and who can blame her?

I think the RF have to think very carefully about how they next proceed. My advice would be to do scorched earth but I well understand them not doing that they are a family after all.

I think the writing is possibly on the wall for them. I feel sorry for W&K.

[peridito]

It’s the fact that they were so demanding; got given everything they asked for and then pissed off in the rudest way possible, whilst insulting their former «employers» ie the Queen, and to a certain extent the tax payer ( if you view them as civil servants)

But it’s the fake (Mainly of Meghan), and the feeling of having been «played» when there was so much goodwill towards them.

but comments like these are out of order - where are the quotes ( not from "friends" in the DM please) in which H&M are complaining they didn't get something ?

Most ppl have passed judgement on the manner of their leaving finding them rude and heartless ,insulting the whole of the UK .It couldn't possibly be more nuanced than that could it ?

They did contact Prince Charles ,they were told to put details in writing ( like you do when your son tells you he wants to work part time in the family firm and emigrate )the Sun did leak the story .

as said by @ Parker231
Some posters have an incredibly vivid imagination - where is the factual information rather than what you are creating!

[fallen121]

That woman on Question time shouting about everyone being racist. It really annoys me when people have a POV and anyone who disagrees with them is racist.

My daughter went to school with someone who identified as transgender and it didn't matter what you disagreed over, it could be something as simple as whether you voted Conservative or Labour. If you didn't agreed with her then you were "transphobic". How does what political party you vote for make you transphobic?

Applying the "racist" label to anyone who disagrees with you on matters pertaining to H&M is equally as nuts. It shows me that the accuser doesn't have anything else in their arsenal and inclined to believe the first thing they read in the Sunday Sport as gospel. It's very sad.

[CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook]

Please ignore spelling!

[GlitchStitch]

Actually, please ignore my previous post, I've just seen that she was picking up her Pilates instructor. If that isn't serious business requiring tax payer funded security then I don't know what is!

[JulietJanuary]

As we are in this modern era can I get put out about their Instagram staffers culturally appropriating the (very northern) Stone Roses for their "Royal but not Royal" shtick. I was slightly discombobulated by it.

Come to think about it my ancestors were literally "harried" by Harry's. History is messy.

[JulietJanuary]

Pilates instructor.

She will be in the lifestyle book.

Or are books not done now with the advent of Instagram?

[NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite]

They did contact Prince Charles ,they were told to put details in writing ( like you do when your son tells you he wants to work part time in the family firm and emigrate )the Sun did leak the story
PH wanted to meet with HMQ on Monday 6th Jan but he was told to talk to PC more about it first. This suggests his plans needed more thought which clearly is the case and borne out by it still not having been sorted.

Yes, the story was leaked by The Sun but who leaked the story to The Sun, eh?

We will apparently know more today according to the Daily Mirror but it sounds like all we'll know is that it will take more time to sort (6 months).
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-harrys-plans-quit-firm-21297167

[SingingLily]

How do they ensure staff keep schtum?

Continued service with equal or preferably better pay and conditions.

I expect the head of the Royal Household is already on to it.

[Wheresthebeach]

I think this was her end game all along. She never fired her agent or pr company. If you're planning to stay in the UK as a member of the RF then those are the first things to go.

Agree with @CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook. I thought PH was a pawn, but now feel they are a right pair.

They will be nothing but a thorn in the side of the RF. Best to cut the oxygen off and strip them of their titles and funding. They can go and live the celebrity life they desperately want. Money, influence and no restrictions on how they behave. Archie will grow up surrounded by other celebrity kids and be poisoned against his extended family.

The behaviour of PA and PH are why PC's plan to strip down the monarchy is a good idea. He needs to be allowed to do it all now.

[Planeplane]

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook

Completely agree with you.

Also agree with IrmaFayLear about duty too. I think it's sad that the important message about not having to put up with abusive family and sometimes putting yourself first seems to have been taken as meaning that it's ok to be completely selfish and hurt and damage all around you just as long as you're happy.

[Horsemad]

I think they are well suited and deserve each other.

[NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite]

I have had a slight shift in my opinion.

It's both of them. They are made for each other.

H might be being played for all his worth by a sophisticated and cynical social climber (I'm being nice) who targeted him, but he's been all too willing to go along with it. They have both been indulged and made excuses for all their lives and had people clean up their mistakes and unfortunately are surrounded by sycophants, willing to tell them what they want to hear so they can benefit by proxy.

My sympathy for H has evaporated.
I totally agree.

[GoFiguire]

That photo this morning - talk about a smirk

[ElspethFlashman]

Apparently the agency who snapped her at the airport is Splash??

WTF? Those are papz for hire. They're the agency the Kardashians have a deal with.

[NaturalBornWoman]

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook I completely agree.

Is he wreaking vengeance on behalf of his mother? It's difficult to explain how they've chosen to go about this, so unnecessary to make it quite so spiteful and unpleasant.

[GlitchStitch]

Poor Trevor Engelson getting papped and questioned now. I bet he is so glad to be out of it. Plus he's remarried to a very beautiful heiress.

[mrscampbellblackagain]

The Rebecca English article is interesting. Harry seems very immature - he wants I think all the respect/privilege he has previously enjoyed but to be able to do what he wants. Well don't we all However, most of us have to do stuff we don't particularly enjoy or want to because that is life.

Honestly, I think Meghan could have done better than Harry. Apart from the fact he is a Prince, well I don't think he is her equal in any way.

[GlitchStitch]

I found it quite sad that Harry went from personally phoning Rebecca English to show her support over her poorly child to scowling at her when she congratulated him on the pregnancy. What happened to him?

[ElspethFlashman]

If ever a face spelt relief, it's Trevors face, lol.

He looks positively cheery.

Still as silent as the proverbial tomb. He's navigated it very well.

[OVienna]

LizzieBananas Fri 17-Jan-20 07:52:58
I knew they were gonna quit when Archie didn’t get a title. Boring US law incoming:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause#Foreign_emoluments

I am not 100% sure this counts the same way if you've received it via birth. I think what that law is meant to address is an adult choosing to accept one.

If an adult has basically given a child a title it's not a choice.

I guess there could be a point in time when he is asked to choose? I cannot renounce my childrens' US citizenship - only they can do that at 18 (or whenever they choose, if they do.)

I see what you're driving at but I don't think they'd arrest him at the border either. I think this might have been another kind of statement.

[ThroughTheRoses]

I'm sure MM will be speaking with the axed Frogmore staff today and checking if they are ok. 🤔

[CurlyWurlyTwirly]

Re: Trevor Engleson

still as silent as the proverbial tomb. He's navigated it very well

He knows exactly what personality type Meghan is.
She is not someone you would want as your enemy.

[Gobbolinothewitchscat]

Feel sorry for Trevor Engelson being harassed as part of this. From what I have read, he and his family have been very dignified. Must be a huge relief for him to be out of all of this and nice to see he is happily remarried

I’m disgusted with all of this. I can’t see how H and could return to the UK fir official events (translation - for photo events to work the brand). I think they would be boo-ed