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Harry and Meghan resigning Act 6: Harry’s first public Appearance since The Announcement

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 16/01/2020 07:12

Previous thread

-Today Prince Harry is doing the draw for the Rugby League. (Not sure if it’s a public location but there’s bound to be a lot of press interest)

  • He has said he is going to stay in the UK for a bit longer to thrash out the details of “Megxit”
  • Meghan has been on a second surprise visit in Vancouver
  • Opinion coming out of Canada is that; not only do they not want to fund the Sussexes; having a member of the a Royal Family make Canada their permanent home is not acceptable.
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fallen121 · 17/01/2020 00:45

It's perfectly possible for someone to have angioplasty following a heart attack and two days later be eating a Happy Meal. Not advisable, but possible

I have bought Happy Meals at McDonalds many, MANY times. I have never eaten any of them. I am a Mother. They might be teenagers now, but I still go to McDonalds and I still buy all kinds of shit (Spicy McNuggets with Chilli Dip) that I have NO intention of eating.

usingname · 17/01/2020 00:54

I had an angiogram last September. I was a day patient but told to rest for the rest of the week. I wouldn't have risked flying anywhere until after my follow up appointment with the cardiologist. I also had to attend a hospital rehab programme once a week for 12 weeks

SpanishLady · 17/01/2020 00:56

Yeah I don't think the changing ring is all that a big deal

usingname · 17/01/2020 01:02

I think Meghan has already moved on from the royal family. We won't ever see her back in Great Britain. Being royal has served her purpose and she doesn't seem to have made
friends of any other royal family members.

AutumnCrow · 17/01/2020 01:13

Yeah, she's done the shoot, it's a wrap.

Happysummer2020 · 17/01/2020 01:38

I thought she would at least give it 4 years. There was a stately home on the border of Wales for them apparently? I mean... wouldn't you stick it out a little bit longer for that?

The call of LA must have been very strong.

scaryteacher · 17/01/2020 01:38

I don't think the changing ring is all that a big deal I asked dh how he would have felt if I had wanted to alter my ring, even now (after 34 years of wearing it), and he said he would be very hurt. It is a big deal when someone has gone to the trouble and expense of designing something for you and thrown in a couple of very meaningful stones (PH, not dh).

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 17/01/2020 01:51

Surely the RF just need to cut them off.
They’ve got £34million, recall their protection officers, cut off the allowances from Prince Charles.
They can start paying for everything as of tomorrow morning.

Their arrogance and ungratefulness is just gobsmacking.

I couldn’t give a monkey’s if they make billions from the Sussex squad buying Meghan and Harry margarine and bandanas. The Sussex title has to go.

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eminencegrise · 17/01/2020 01:54

They are being true and being themselves.

LOL! Yep, when it comes to titles and taking money.

Yes, there will be another pregnancy announcement, hence her loose tops. Gotta get the two!

Happysummer2020 · 17/01/2020 01:56

She did gasp and profess how wonderful the engagement ring was and how meaningful it was in the engagement interview.

And then she changed it.

She's such a phoney.... it's laughable.

eminencegrise · 17/01/2020 02:04

She's such a phoney.... it's laughable.

Even more so for how many fell for it, including PH himself. She looked like the cat who had got the fattest rat at the wedding, except the cat in incapable of being smug. Another big ol' wedding complete with gown, repeating vows, well . . .

You'd have to be utterly daft not to have seen through that or fallen for it. Oh, wait. . .

SpanishLady · 17/01/2020 02:14

I've already stated some comments are not really legitimate (pure speculation - and would include all the bet they divorce/can't go to Duke if Edinburgh funeral in that - also a bit unkind)

But for posters who say everyone is a bitchy gossip etc I'd say:

  1. It is possible to care about more than one thing at a time - e.g I can comment on H&M and also be invested in social injustice, the environment, Australian fires etc
  1. I can comment on H&M and not hate them or give them a moments thought in the rest of my day
  1. Many posters have been careful to acknowledge they are just speculating and are not world experts or have initiate knowledge - indeed if we were only able to comment on something we had first hand experience of, qualifications for etc - all of us would struggle to say anything about anything!
  1. Posters criticising other posters either literally ( you are sad to be so invested etc) or for their comments should hold themselves to the same standards eg attack someone for quoting DM if they then also make their point quite DM (just using this as an illustration before someone asks me to evidence when that happened)

Lastly - what has been running in my mind during all this is this. I accept for example that Harry struggles with some of his royal life, the media etc. I accept it is nonsense that just because he is royal, rich etc he somehow is not allowed to have bad days, anxiety, mental health issues etc - of course he can but unlike many people he has all options available to him to deal with these.

Meghan feels bullied? Ok but she can do a number of things to counteract that in either combatting or dealing with it - her access to people who can help, her wealth to allow quick or immediate redress is not an option for many.

A few years ago I was being bullied at work. It went for serious (being deliberately missed out on meetings/information, comments on my race, appearance and weight) to the ridiculous (someone opening a packet of biscuits and going round people one by one to offer one and missing me out while we all sat there) - though to be fair as they were offended by my weight (I am and was then a 10-12 btw) it could be they did that kindly so I didn't get fatter😄

Point was I couldn't just quit - I needed the job. I couldn't just shout them down ( 4 against 1) etc etc - so my point is for me I'm quite frustrated by H&M not because how they purport to feel is not valid but their victim attitude rankles - as underscoring being a victim is the powerlessness

SpanishLady · 17/01/2020 02:17

Apologies for typos and length (tend to save stuff up)

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 17/01/2020 02:22

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 17/01/2020 02:37

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Prince Philip specified that MM should not be permitted to attend his funeral. He must be incandescent with rage over this terrible act of extreme disrespect to the Crown by his grandson and the grandson's appalling wife

He may well specify that Harry is not permitted to attend either.
I think over the years; it will dawn on Harry that he may have (in his head) chosen his country over his wife. What he is probably not prepared for is is Country do not want him back.

It truly is an abdication. He will end up feeling as irrelevant and pointless as the Duke of Windsor. He has his very own Wallis Simpson.

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OVienna · 17/01/2020 06:59

With this situation and with people like Trump, there can and will be speculation. You just have to listen to what they themselves say and do. For M&H the Instagram post and the website were the clue. They say basically all you need to know. If they were so worried about being caught out by a story in the Sun, they could have issued a formal boring statement. They could have refrained from listing the benefits they would continue receive (Frogmore Cottage) and acknowledged that the practicalities need to be worked no.

No. "We have spoken. Let it be so."

scaryteacher · 17/01/2020 07:23

Curly It's an abdication of responsibility certainly.

BackyardChickens · 17/01/2020 08:20

The photos of her grinning away in the car this morning... her smile is so fake.

Parker231 · 17/01/2020 08:27

Some posters have an incredibly vivid imagination - where is the factual information rather than what you are creating!

BirdandSparrow · 17/01/2020 08:51

It's all a bit odd and drama llama esque, but I don't really believe the RF is at all surprised, if they had no engagements planned for months then obviously the RF knew a long time ago they were leaving.
Maybe it's to distract from Andrew, who knows? But the whole thing was obviously discussed between them all a good while ago.

diddl · 17/01/2020 08:58

If PP demanded that MM wasn't there, & it was known, isn't the likelihood that it would be even more proof to Harry that they are all against her/them?

JulietJanuary · 17/01/2020 09:13

Or I might think that being "true to yourself" while determinedly piggybacking on a family organisation which you brief against as "toxic", to press you profess to despise, is in fact a little bit cheeky.

Or just sad and unwise. With perhaps a "toxic" legacy of its own.

SunsetBoulevard3 · 17/01/2020 09:31

I was watching the video Ms friend shot of her when M was living in LA as an aspiring actress. It was quite interesting. During the whole video she talked about herself. Non stop. Ok she was young and naive but even then she comes across as incredibly narcissistic. It also highlights what a very different world she was inhabiting from Harry at that time. How can she even begin to relate to his lifestyle and the traditions and expectations of the institution he has lived in all his life?

Wheresthebeach · 17/01/2020 09:37

Agree with PP who said the concept of 'duty' isn't one that Americans understand. It's the 'land of opportunity' where making money is how you are judged. Money is King.

I'm genuinely shocked at MM recent salvo's. I think it will show the RF what they are in for, and hopefully they will realise that it's game over so they will cut them lose just like Edward and Wallis. They'll be a thorne in the RF side forever, but at least we won't be funding it.

SunsetBoulevard3 · 17/01/2020 09:43

The trouble is if their titles aren’t removed and they continue to receive Duchy funding and Royal protection, that’s going to cause an awful lot of negative backlash against the RF isn’t it?
If they do have titles removed and funding withdrawn, they will alienate Harry further. Also the faction who believe Harry and Meghan have ‘escaped’ will be baying for blood. They can’t win.
I wondered too if Philip would want M at his funeral.