does anyone in Scotland give a shit about the royal wedding?

[ssd]

I don't am sick of it already

[LisamumtoJake]

Oh Gooseberrybushes bugger off (Just speaking as i find) :) who has a massive chip on her shoulder about something huh?!

[TheCrackFox]

Gooseberry, put down the Daily Mail now there's a Dear.

As an interesting aside papers like the DM, The Sun, Express all have Scottish versions which say equally unflattering things about the English. They find that stirring up national hatred seems to sell in England and in Scotland.

[EdwardorEricCantDecide]

What Lisa and crackfox said.

[Absolutelyfabulous]

My toxic MIL is a Scot who has voted Tory all her life.
Her equally toxic daughter was last spoken to by our family when she told my DH that, " We all hate the fucking English" despite his children and wife being such.
I encountered racism that was real and pernicious and just THERE in the five years I lived in Scotland. DH has lived in England for twenty and has never encountered any. He wouldn't live in Scotland again for millions.
Scotland will never vote for independence, more's the pity, because they know that England subsidises them to the tune of billions a year and you'd have to be a fool to try and go it alone without the wealth generated by England.
My in laws are anti English racists and they do it without even batting an eyelid. If you subsituted black or Jew for the word English when they speak, you'd drop dead of shock. And these are supposedly educated, middle class folk.

[TheCrackFox]

2 people are not representative of millions of people.

I encountered comments in England. i didn't presume that 40 million people felt the same as a couple of idiots.

If you encounter racism, like with your MILs, then you have a duty to challenge them on it.

[Absolutelyfabulous]

I said I lived there for five years and encountered it almost continuously, low level, drip, drip, drip.
Like any time in a pub in a rugby/football game where the anti- England comments were just vile.

[TheCrackFox]

I wouldn't know about football or rugby as I don't actually like them. I certainly wouldn't go to a pub to watch them.

Again, your experience means everyone in Scotland hates the English.

My parents are both from Yorkshire and have strong accents but have lived here for 40yrs. They bloody love it here. All of my relatives are in Yorkshire and I get the piss taken out of me (not in a nice way) everytime I go and visit. Again, I don't presume everyone in England feels that way because to subscribe that view would be racist in itself.

[TheCrackFox]

sorry, meant to say:

Again, your experience does not mean everyone in Scotland hates the English.

[Absolutelyfabulous]

You genuinely don't think that there is some Anti- English feeling in Scotland?
Dh says when he was a kid you took it in with your mother's milk. It was always there.
Don't put words into my mouth, please. Of course not EVERYONE in Scotland hates the English. But plenty do.

[TheCrackFox]

There is as much anti-English feeling in Scotland as there is anti-Scottish feeling in England.

I have enver heard anyone say anything bad about the English. I would challenge them because no one (but me) can slag off my parents.

TBH it sounds like your MIL is an arse.

[BorisTheBold]

Jeez, this type of thread seems to turn up every week here recently and if you believed the vast majority of posters on each of these threads then all Scottish people are ill educted, leeching bigots getting at the poor, over-looked hardworking English.

FWIW, I'm Scottish and have lived in Hampshire for about 13 years and have had various comments ranging from gentle piss-taking to out and out abuse over this time. My brother and I were attacked when waiting for a taxi, because the bottle-throwing twats heard our Scottish accents and decided we were down here to take their jobs . I've also been "jumped" on the way home from a night out (my first after the birth of my second daughter) by a lovely Hampshire girl because I was Scottish - and to make it worse, I was detained by the police whilst she walked off home because I retaliated and defended myself...blatently because she was a "local" and I wasn't!

However, I'm not stupid enought to believe that the numerous twats I've been subjected to are representative of Hampshire or England as a whole and I'm frankly amazed at the naivety of some of the posters on here who think that the actions of one individual should define the stance of an entire country!

[Absolutelyfabulous]

So, the English support Anyone But Scotland, do they?

[BorisTheBold]

Yes, some do

[TheCrackFox]

Again Andy Murray's comments don't actually apply to every single Scottish person.

[Eglu]

I would say it is much more likely for the Scots to support anyone but the English. IME the English just don't give a shit about Scotland to care either way.

[Absolutelyfabulous]

Crackfox, are you a Scot living in England?

[TheCrackFox]

No, I am Scottish living in Scotland. My parents are English but have lived in Scotland for 40yrs.

All my extended family live in Yorkshire or the Home counties.

[hormonesnomore]

As I said before I'm Scottish & live in England.

My English ex-h & I used to live in Scotland & he was occasionally victimised.

His first experience was in a pub. It went like this -

'You English?'

'Yes'

'Where you from?'

'London'

'That's ok then.'

Him -

I've experienced it here too - 'You people think you can come to England and take all our jobs' was one racist comment I was on the receiving end of.

It happens to us all I have to say, although Scotland is in my blood and is my home, I love living in England - most people are tolerant, easy-going & welcoming.

And the weather is better [csmile]

[seb1]

Well I watched several wedding type programmes and heard numerous people talking about the future King of England, so I assume all these educated people are unaware of existence of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, or are they indicative of the reverse relationship between arrogance and intelligence. Also we just don't do flags and bunting in Scotland at all.

[Absolutelyfabulous]

Too wet and windy for bunting, Seb

[Gooseberrybushes]

"There is as much anti-English feeling in Scotland as there is anti-Scottish feeling in England."

Rubbish. People in England don't care enough about Scottish people to hate them. They just tire of the boring predictability of Scottish bigotry against the English. Chip on the shoulder? snort no. Your forefathers had more guts than you. Now you just whinge whinge whinge and take the money anyway.

And what abfab said.

[Absolutelyfabulous]

So true Gooseberry, so true.
We genuinely don't care if the Scots are part of the union but the Scots seem to care rather too much. Well, providing they can cling on to the Scotland weighted Barnett formula.
Personally, I'd bloody love to see England go for independence. We could lower taxes significantly, have superb public services and still be quids in.

[scottishmummy]

snigger,youre trying too hard gberry.clichétastic

try subsidy junkie or whining scots,you omitted those in your rant. have you called anyone jock yet?

[BorisTheBold]

@SM - you forgot "sweaty" too.

[Gooseberrybushes]

Too true. But they'd join the euro, join Schengen, go cap in hand and we'd end up paying for them anyway.