so what would kate middleclass ahve done if wills hadn't popped the question?

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tbh i knew next to nothing about the woman until last night and cared even less. but honestly she hung around for 8 years doing nothing useful with her life apart from waiting for some fecking man to pop the questiong. what a loser.

The BBC was linking to an article in Vanity Fair about her yesterday (I didn't get as much work done as I should have ... truth be told) and I do feel sorry for her. The stupid man kept on leaving her dangling every now and then, running after whatserface Gough-Calthorpe-Doodladoo and someone called Annabella and all of this sort of thing, while she went back to her parents house to try and sort herself out in the meantime.

Let's be honest - if William wasn't the future king, what's the likelihood of him ending up with someone like her anyway? (though I'm sure he has a nice personality).

"If anyone else tries to make Diana am example of feminist independence I will personally post a box of puke to Mumsnet HQ. By Royal Mail"

at 'by royal mail'.

Oh bollocks to it. She seems a nice girl. She needs trhe best of british luck to survive the media madness.

WHAT the bloody hell does she do to her hair to get it that glossy? We need to be told.

And that is a lovely dress.

I am an arch republican but I think its nice news. She will need to toughen up becaise she seemed so nervous.

But the thing is - the tabloids and the press are much, much worse in the UK than anywhere else.
About a year ago, I was walking through Soho with DP and we walked past a restaurant which had a mahoosive crowd of people outside, toting cameras (like ten people deep), so we asked what was going on - apparently Amy Winehouse was inside having dinner. Another time, I was having falafel in a shop on Edgware road, and two guys were running around outside taking tons of photos, and in walked Jude Law. The manager had to chase the paparazzi out with a broom and refused to let them in. You don't get the same kind of thing in any other country, as far as i'm aware. You keep on reading about British slebs moving to LA, because (in addition to fabulouso weather and career opportunities) they can have a degree of normal life, without tons of people with cameras following you about. Or, friend's parents used to live next door to David Walliams, and a couple of times friend's mom had to go and chase paparazzi out of the bushes.

Are you saying that a working-outside-the-home life is the only acceptable life for someone to choose?

Agree cereal. I can't imagine why any woman with a degree would be silly enough to put her own aspirations and ambitions on (permanent) hold, whilst her boyfriend pursues his own dreams. She has, on the face of it, achieved nothing for herself in the last few years - I'd be sorely disappointed if my daughter had so few ambitions.

The point about Kate posing a security risk really doesn't stand - as others have said, many European royals manage to hold down jobs, as did those who married into the royal families.

I actually think people are incredibly easy on her.

Can you imagine how people would react to a 28 year old guy who had essentially never worked a day in his life? (with apologies to part-time junior accessory buying assistants)

Pixie - I'm not talking about after you've had a family. This is about a young girl who, after leaving university, did nothing for herself and instead waited for her boyfriend (who was happily pursuing his own dreams and ambitions) to finish whatever he was doing.

Had she really wanted to, and had the media here been such an issue (I disagree that it would have been, however) strings would have been pulled and she would have been able to pursue her own goals elsewhere in the world.

I do think that once she took up with William (at University) it was very difficult for her to have a full-time job and to continue the relationship.

Despite the royal PR machine trying to convince us all of "how hard they all work" there are a hell of a lot of jollies, and breaks away with chums that William was going to go to and to want his girlfriend to accompany him. I doubt these fit in with the normal working week - anyone else remember the "What's a weekend?" line from Downton Abbey.

I expect Kate's employers at Jigsaw were pretty flexible at the start, letting her work part-time and dash off at short notice to stay for a long weekend at good old Charlie Braying-Hooray's house, because she was going out with you-know-who. However it wouldn't be able to last forever, and pretty soon she probably had to choose between a) a part-time job she didn't really need as her parents are loaded and b) a boyfriend she adored who would find another girl in two minutes should she decide not to join him on his tenth holiday charity fact-finder that year.

And if it didn't work out with William in the long term, she'd have been famous enough to have got herself a good job.

Given that she must actually love him, I wonder what other people would do in the same circumstances (ie that she didn't need a proper job).

Quite, Pixie.

And since you do not know that she has been sat, and you have not been funding her, LeQueen, I wonder why you mind?

Well, those expressing the concerns over her lack of employement are in good company

Had I been so insecure in myself, so lacking in ambition, and so desperate to marry I would have done the same. How awful.

Why does no-one ask this question about Prince Edward?

or any of them, tbh. who has the foggiest what these people do? and in all sincerity i would not work if i didn't have to, i really could fill my day with fun things no problem.