so what would kate middleclass ahve done if wills hadn't popped the question?

[CerealOffender]

tbh i knew next to nothing about the woman until last night and cared even less. but honestly she hung around for 8 years doing nothing useful with her life apart from waiting for some fecking man to pop the questiong. what a loser.

[Maisiethemorningsidecat]

It could be the case, Balloon

Either way, she's a fool. An intelligent young woman with money and opportunities, and she hangs about waiting for a man and living off money that someone else has made.

[electra]

The Times article says that KM should have had a career to 'protect her from being in a gilded cage.

My point is that it's not realistic to think that would ever be possible. The Royal Family probably support the engagement, or have even encouraged it because they know she'll fit in and won't want to steal the limelight but will do the 'right' things at the right times. I've seen her described as 'traditional', which basically means that she'll tow the line of the Establishment as far as I can see.

[electra]

I agree, LeQueen.

[solo]

Bloody good luck to them I say and congratulations! I hope they will be very happy :)

[EldritchCleavage]

I don't disagree with people who say it would have been better for her if she had worked (though I stand by what i said about the paparazzi interest rendering her unemployable: not because of security risks to her per se, but because no conventional employer could take that degree of disruption). I suppose there was always the Armed Forces or some charity work.

I just don't get the level of personal unpleasantness directed at her. Where these two are concerned I can't get any more het up than vaguely benevolent/mildly irritated.

And anti-woman nastiness dressed up as feminism really really gets my goat.

[AitchTwoOh]

and as for the snidey comments directed at the mother for having been an air hostess... it's really shocking i think.

[EldritchCleavage]

Since we can't know what her mental health is it's pointless debating it, surely.

[squeaver]

Agree with LeQueen on this.

And, despite all her obvious media training, I thought the way she handled the question about working last night was particularly crap.

Good piece in The Guardian today saying imagine how fab it would have been if he'd married someone with a real career like a doctor.

[squeaver]

guardian piece here

[LaurieScaryCake]

She's not working cos she doesn't need to

If I didn't have to work in all the shit jobs before the one I have I wouldn't have worked.

I'd have sat around on my fat arse living off my rich boyfriend (who's rich without doing anything) or my inherited wealth or trust fund.

Most people (unless like me they really love their job) wouldn't work if they didn't have to.

[traceybath]

But she'd hardly have continued being a Dr would she? She will have a few duties to carry out as Princess of whatever won't she?

And yes aitch the comments about her mother are very low indeed. But there's often resentment about self-made people - I love all the 'trade' comments - I mean are we still in the nineteenth century.

Actually I think the most cringeworthy thing about the whole engagment was Camilla's 'wicked' - you can just imagine her embarassed children's faces.

[AbsofCroissant]

My DM was quite shocked by the wicked comment (though Camilla had gone all South London on us) until I explained that she'd just left the theatre where wicked is performed, and she pointed out that that kind of context will be lost. So Camilla's official response, for all eternity, on the engagement will be "wicked" vs. Harry's "I'm getting the sister I always wanted".

[traceybath]

Am now confused Abs - so she wasn't being 'street' then because I was rather by her comment.

[AbsofCroissant]

From what I read on the BBC site, I don't think she was. She was just being 'dim'.

here. She's also beaten by Ladbrokes

[traceybath]

Do you think she'd been at the gin in the interval and got a bit confused

[Matsikula]

AbsofCroissant, EXACTLY! I think the Queen is the only member of the royal family with her head screwed on right.

Couldn't we just quietly forget about this whole business once she retires (okay, dies, she'll never retire )?

[AbsofCroissant]

Hells yeah. I think the Queen is awesome, but can never see myself feeling the same about her wet-blanket offspring, so after she's gone, we should all just give up on the Royalty, vote in a president and redo Buckingham Palace as a rival to Disneyland Paris (I mean, there's already a giant REAL palace, don't need to build a rubbish fake one).

[Maisiethemorningsidecat]

Agree. Queenie can stay for a bit, Anne too is acceptable (she turns out in all weathers to cheer on our boys to an inevitable defeat at Murrayfield) - but the rest have to go.

I would suggest we then appoint them all as tour guides to Disneyland Buckingham, with Katie as one of the Princesses - she can spend her days flicking her hair, and wistfully imagining

[Willabywallaby]

I have to agree I have a lot of respect for Anne, and she didn't give her children the prince/princess title. Much more down to earth.

Good luck to Kate and William I hope they manage to make it last since it's only Edward hanging on in there for the previous generation.