Anyone snuck three dogs into center parcs

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Has anyone snuck an extra dog into center parcs? Really want to book one lodge for myself, husband, daughter and parents but we have three dogs between us.

Two of the dogs are same breed so could pass as one, but I’m working out how to you get past the entrance? Do they record number of dogs in each car?

I would hide the smallest one but she’s noisy 😆 so it would be our largest one who would need hiding as she’d keep quiet.

It’s two labradors and Jack Russell. Just seems expensive to pay for a whole extra lodge just to accommodate a dog!

But the OP fully explained it? Do you normally just base responses based on a six word title?

it also clearly states It’s two labradors and Jack Russell.

You don’t seem to be able to read and comprehend?

But isn't the issue that OP is hoping only to declare 2 dogs to avoid the extra cost of a second lodge? I.e.lying to avoid extra cost? I'm disappointed at the number of people on here think that's okay.

Do you not think an entire lodge, at a minimum of £800, is an excessive amount of space and money for an elderly JRT?

My Chi is amazingly spoiled, but even I wouldn't go so far as to book him an entire lodge to himself (he has his own bed in our shared lodge instead).

If the extra cost was a nominal cleaning fee, or CP had a rule of two dogs per party, fair enough, but if OP had booked 2 smaller lodges, this wouldn't be an issue. 3 dogs between four people is not an excessive or difficult-to-manage number, especially given that one of them is the size of a large potato.

It is itrelevant whether you think the cost is too high -CP can change whatever they v like and make whatever rules they like.
Of you don’t like those charges or rules then go somewhere with different charges and rules.
Othereise it is just plain dishonesty and its dispiriting how many posters are so keen to advocate that.

Because posters on MN are extremely black and white about ‘the ~ rules ~’ Breaking the rules= very bad. There’s no room for nuance or critical thinking.

Exactly this.

The rule is obviously there to prevent people from bringing more dogs than can be comfortably accommodated in the lodge or be managed well by the party staying in the lodge; however, CP cannot go through every possible scenario and create a rule for each, so they have a blanket rule instead.

This blanket rule ignores the fact that there is a world of difference between a couple trying to manage three young Great Danes and 4 people looking after 2 mature yellow labs and one oversized potato.

OP bringing an extra dog is going to have zero impact on anyone other than OP and her family. It's a complete non-issue.

CP have very little space for dogs. Their dog exercise areas are small and limited. I wouldn't take a dog there, never mind 3, not much fun for them and limits the activities you can do there. So people taking an extra dog could impact other dog people as less space in the already small area you can exercise them in.

CP have acres and acres of dog walks. The dogs can walk for miles. It’s only the enclosed exercise areas that are limited. I’m sure an elderly Jack Russel will cope just fine.

It doesn’t matter -it’s their rules, their land, their terms and conditions.
Don’t sign up to their Ts and Cs if you want something outside that.
Leave one of the dogs elsewhere, or go elsewhere, or get another lodge.
Easy.
Unless you are a CF who thinks ‘do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law’ (or for the less educated -‘I’ll just do what I want and everyone else can just FTFO.’)

Are you proposing that CP has carefully considered how many dogs they can accept at a time, based on the amount of off-lead space they've allocated in their park?

How do you think they decided how much space to allocate per dog? A Greyhound needs a lot more space to run than a Lab, whereas a chihuahua could have a decent run in an average-sized bathroom.

It's far more likely that the number of dog-friendly lodges per park depends on demand and how many older lodges there are in that particular park, and the off-leash spaces are allocated based on how many clearings there are within that park to fence off areas for dogs.

Plus, even if that were true, for OP's JRT to have any noticeable impact on anyone other than her own group, you would need to assume that each dog-friendly lodge is occupied by two medium-large dogs and that all of the owners want to use the off-leash space, which is incredibly unlikely.

Do you use that excuse for all rules and laws? Is shop lifting okay, how dare shops expect me to pay for everything

The law has space for nuance. A single mother shoplifting a jar of baby food to feed her child is not treated the same as a childless woman shoplifting a widescreen TV, are they?

Well no of course not 🙄 Again with the black and white thinking. But not all rules are equal, some rules make no sense, some rules do more damage than good, many rules are changed or adapted when this is realised, some rules are inherently unfair and designed to uphold unjust systems etc etc etc. And sometimes any rational person with a bit of intelligence can see that breaking some rules is of no real consequence to anybody and just not a big deal at all. it’s essential that people question them!
It’s just the strange ‘how could you ever break a ~ rule ~ 😱’ attitude

So is the OP like the impoverished single mother stealing a jar of baby food?

I don't think this is high risk, I think this is the solution. No one monitors for number of dogs when you are there. You will be fine. My Dad snuck ME into Center Parcs when I was 9. I was really excited until I realised I don't have a bed and had to sleep on the floor between two beds. Oh, the memories, lol! Goodluck OP! Be brave!

@fromgothtoboss well CP isn't getting extra money from the OP as they are renting one less villa, so they are impacted. Same as people who steal in extra guests.

And is it only big organisations like CP that it doesn't matter people do this. Also extra people do have an impact on other people because the pools get horrendously crowded at times, extra sneaked in people will make a difference.

If it was a small family run hotel, just about surviving, would it be okay to sneak an extra guest into your room rather than pay for an extra room?

A single dog doesn’t need a whole additional villa.
That would take up an additional lodge that could otherwise be rented by a family who will pay for food, activities and experiences at center parcs on top of their lodgings…

So how many dogs would be too many, or it doesn't matter?

@sittingonabeach Do you understand what nuance means? There is no single answer; it depends upon the circumstances.

Unless you are suggesting that four mature chihuahuas would have the same needs, space requirements, and management techniques as four adolescent Leonbergers?

In the scenario, OP is suggesting her dog will not have a negative impact on CP or other guests. If she were thinking of sneaking in an extra badly trained Rottweiler, I expect the replies she got would have been different.

I think nuance in many circumstances just means if I can get away with not paying something I will, sod anyone else who is impacted.

Yes, it's an excessive amount, but do you honestly think being dishonest in order to avoid the payment is justified? And what about if it was something else that was really expensive? Would you apply the same rationale? If so, I feel really sorry for you.

I hadn't realised dishonesty was the same as nuance. You lean something new every day. I guess benefit fraud is also nuance!

Who gains from OP following the rules?

CP now has an empty lodge which could otherwise be occupied by another family spending money there.

Ditto the business local to CP, who are losing the money another potential family might spend.

The other guests gain nothing because there is still the same number of guests and dogs arriving.

It is blind adherence to "the rules" for the sake of blindly adhering to the rules.

Yes that’s correct! I was pointing out the facts to the previous PP who thought she was trying to take all three to a non dog friendly lodge and lock them up all week. She also got the breeds of the dogs wrong and was also trying to say the post was confusing. I think It was her lack of comprehension that’s the issue.

For me an extra Jack Russell staying in a lodge with two Labrador’s is not an issue, to pay for an entire extra lodge for that is ridiculous IMO.

I’m sorry you’re disappointed with that, but 🤷‍♀️!