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Cockapoo or Cavapoo

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KaleQueen · Yesterday 19:58

We’re taking the plunge with our first dog this year. In the research phase and it’s down to either a Cockapoo or Cavapoo. We’re going for male I think. We’re an active family and have one of us working from home. Two kids over age of 10 both sensible. Small ish house and mid size garden. Lots of fields and green space nearby. Want a dog that won’t chew our house to bits and be fairly well behaved! Committed to fully training them obviously as I know that’s an essential factor for behaviour. I adore dogs and walk others’ regularly so I’m really excited we’re taking this first step to get our own but I’m worried about making the wrong choice. Any advice would be hugely appreciated

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KaleQueen · Yesterday 22:56

PauliString · Yesterday 22:19

We also need a low shedding breed as husband has asthma but has managed with the cockapoo and Cavapoo we have in our circles

I think you want a Havanese or a Tibetan terrier, or maybe an Irish wheaten.

I've had a cockapoo. She shed like there was no tomorrow.

😬 looks like the husband is moving out then…

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KaleQueen · Yesterday 22:58

tratoyr · Yesterday 20:31

We have a Cockapoo, she is 9 years old now. She is a lovely dog, and never had any problem with her.

Ah she’s beautiful xx

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redboxer321 · Yesterday 22:58

Thanks for posting and definitely not an idiot 😀

Other posters will be able to explain better than me but I'll just start with this:
"Our puppies have found loving homes across the globe, from America and the Cayman Islands to France, Spain, Italy, and all over the UK."

How the hell does this work? She's sending puppies around the world? Why would anyone do this? Money is the only reason I can think of. Maybe I'm missing something but sorry OP but I would give her a massive swerve.

Snowinsummer · Yesterday 23:01

I’ve got both a cockapoo & a cavapoo. They are both lovely. The cavapoo is very cuddly, so definitely more of a lapdog, whilst the cockapoo loves playing with his ball.

BiroOutlaw · Yesterday 23:05

I should not have clicked on that link... now I want a puppy 😂

OP you sound like you will be giving a lovely home to a dog, I hope you find your perfect match. I think that breeder seems a bit dodgy with the fancy website & all the crossbreeds though!

Yetanotherone12 · Yesterday 23:06

KaleQueen · Yesterday 22:49

Let me know your thoughts: www.donnasdoodles.co.uk

Sorry mate that’s a puppy farm…

YourWinter · Yesterday 23:08

Ah yes. The Insta sales pitch.

She doesn’t say whether her breeding bitches are pure bred spaniels, or poodles. She doesn’t mention the various sires, only that you can meet the dam (mother).

Perhaps she’s like someone around here who claimed to have bred “pure” cockapoo puppies by mating two cockapoos. And people fall for it.

OP, can you not look through the fuzzy advertising and see what she is? A backyard breeder who fancies her social media talents, churning out crossbred puppies that you yourself admit are “expensive” and using clichés and glossy advertising to make a lot of money.

Of course you’d get an “adorable” puppy, fluffy and “with its own personality” - well that’s nice then.

Why isn’t she applying her interest in correct genetics to breed pure breeds? I’d hazard a guess…

PurpleFlower1983 · Yesterday 23:11

We have a Cavapoo and she is absolutely brilliant!

Cockapoo or Cavapoo
KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:11

SpanielsGalore · Yesterday 22:00

What is your reasoning behind choosing those cross breeds? What qualities, characteristics and personality traits are you looking for in a dog?

This is probably going to sound stupid: a dog that isn’t too big, isn’t too small, loves long walks but doesn’t need specific enrichment like a gun dog. Doesn’t shed too much. Won’t destroy my house.

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KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:12

PurpleFlower1983 · Yesterday 23:11

We have a Cavapoo and she is absolutely brilliant!

See this is why I love them. They look like they smile ❤️

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Iexpecttobetired · Yesterday 23:12

If you do not want a poodle do not get a dog that is half poodle. As the dog is a mix breed your DH may well be allergic. If you are intimidated by springers do not get a cocker spaniel. Cavaliers are typically unhealthy dogs.

YourWinter · Yesterday 23:13

Like a border terrier? A Havanese? A miniature poodle?

KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:13

YourWinter · Yesterday 23:08

Ah yes. The Insta sales pitch.

She doesn’t say whether her breeding bitches are pure bred spaniels, or poodles. She doesn’t mention the various sires, only that you can meet the dam (mother).

Perhaps she’s like someone around here who claimed to have bred “pure” cockapoo puppies by mating two cockapoos. And people fall for it.

OP, can you not look through the fuzzy advertising and see what she is? A backyard breeder who fancies her social media talents, churning out crossbred puppies that you yourself admit are “expensive” and using clichés and glossy advertising to make a lot of money.

Of course you’d get an “adorable” puppy, fluffy and “with its own personality” - well that’s nice then.

Why isn’t she applying her interest in correct genetics to breed pure breeds? I’d hazard a guess…

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Okay. I’m stupid. Thanks. Glad I asked now. I hadn’t approached but she was the best I could find.
please can you offer advice on how to find a good breeder?

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ALotofThingsBeataJet2HolidayActually · Yesterday 23:14

KaleQueen · Yesterday 22:53

Sure: https://www.donnasdoodles.co.uk
very happy to be told I’m an idiot 🤣

This definitely smacks of puppy farmer to me, I'm afraid.

The website was put together in 5 minutes using a crap AI tool, and doesn't really tell you anything. The stuff it does tell you is waffle or obvious bollocks (her puppies have found homes all over the world?? I don't think so...)

Coupled with the fact that she's constantly breeding new litters of "fashionable" dogs, it's a hard avoid from me. I hope you find a better option though, every family deserves a dog.

KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:15

ALotofThingsBeataJet2HolidayActually · Yesterday 23:14

This definitely smacks of puppy farmer to me, I'm afraid.

The website was put together in 5 minutes using a crap AI tool, and doesn't really tell you anything. The stuff it does tell you is waffle or obvious bollocks (her puppies have found homes all over the world?? I don't think so...)

Coupled with the fact that she's constantly breeding new litters of "fashionable" dogs, it's a hard avoid from me. I hope you find a better option though, every family deserves a dog.

Thank you. I’m so glad I shared this and checked.

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Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · Yesterday 23:16

KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:11

This is probably going to sound stupid: a dog that isn’t too big, isn’t too small, loves long walks but doesn’t need specific enrichment like a gun dog. Doesn’t shed too much. Won’t destroy my house.

That sounds a lot like a miniature poodle TBH, except for the last point which is partly a puppy trait and partly trainable.

Your mate Donna is a puppy farmer. She's buying, mating and selling animals for financial gain on a huge scale, and posting puppies all over the world.

Fleetheart · Yesterday 23:16

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Kalimeras · Yesterday 23:22

I don’t know if it’s just me but I can’t see any evidence of her on NCC website.

Kalimeras · Yesterday 23:25

if you like a cute family dog with (sometimes too much) personality, have a look at Tibetan Terrier. They're not actually terriers - in Tibet they’re used for a bit of everything, herding, guarding, companionship. They’re called “the little people” - they’re clownish, love to be involved in everything, friendly little guys. They can be a little stubborn and tricky to train (they’ll ask what’s in it for me? Instead of giving you blind obedience) but they’re very clever and learn quickly. They have long non shedding coats but you can just get them clipped regularly into a puppy cut which makes them look a lot like cockerpoos. They’re lovely family dogs and you won’t ever be bored. They can suffer from separation anxiety though - that’s the downside of a happy, friendly family dog who wants to go on every adventure.

CrumbocalypseNow · Yesterday 23:26

KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:11

This is probably going to sound stupid: a dog that isn’t too big, isn’t too small, loves long walks but doesn’t need specific enrichment like a gun dog. Doesn’t shed too much. Won’t destroy my house.

A whippet? I take mine to work where my boss is allergic to dogs but is ok with my whippet.

I do canicross with him and he’ll happily run 10k with me. He’s been walking in the lakes with us - just needed his own fleece and waterproof as they can get cold.

In work he’s calm and quiet and just sleeps on his own chair. He’s loves fuss in shops and cafes where people always want to say hello to him - I socialised him a lot as a puppy. He’s just easy, calm, quiet, friendly, active when I’m out with him but calm and quiet in the house, doesn’t shed - the cat sheds more than he does. He’d never snap or growl at anyone - you can take food off him, or even pick him up and move him around if he’s asleep without any resistance. I’ve never known a dog as easy although I did a lot of work with him as a puppy.

He’s also not a single person dog so he shares his snuggling with the whole family so makes a great family dog.

PurpleFlower1983 · Yesterday 23:29

KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:12

See this is why I love them. They look like they smile ❤️

She’s brilliant, absolutely amazing with our kids, they’re 4 and 7 now, great off the lead, loves a cuddle, fine with the cat but know we’ve got lucky as some can have issues with separation anxiety etc. She is a bit scared of other dogs and new people but that’s due to unfortunate lack of socialisation early on. We got her at 4 months, she was the last of the litter and only has one long ear! When I hear the amounts some people pay for mixed breeds I can’t believe it!

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · Yesterday 23:30

KaleQueen · Yesterday 23:13

Okay. I’m stupid. Thanks. Glad I asked now. I hadn’t approached but she was the best I could find.
please can you offer advice on how to find a good breeder?

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They don't have photos of a litter of available puppies on a website or insta page because it's irresponsible to breed animals you don't already have a home for. They'll have met and screened potential adopters and won't plan a litter until there are enough homes for any puppies they aren't keeping.

A responsible, ethical breeder will have a wider interest in the breed than just spitting out litter after litter for profit. They will be involved in the show and/or sports world and have a genuine interest in the improvement of the breed. They'll have carefully examined pedigrees and completed all the necessary breed-specific screening to ensure parents are the best possible examples with the least possible chance of any genetic conditions. The main purpose of producing a litter is to create the next generation and keep the line going when they've found a really excellent, successful specimen. Not something they just do as a business.

The latter point is why ethical breeding of oodles is so incredibly rare.

upintheloft · Yesterday 23:31

we have an Australian labradoodle from Toras Australian labradoodles they’re a registered breeder (in Scotland though so for us was a long trip) but she’s gorgeous. Beautiful temperament and similar to a cockapoo. Doesn’t malt and is small but not too small. Pricey but worth it.

Ohnobackagain · Yesterday 23:33

@KaleQueen be careful re husband’s asthma. Sometimes a reaction builds over days and not overnight. Also, it can be the saliva and skin flakes
rather than hair (I’m asthmatic and allergic to most furry creatures). I can’t have a dog. The first one I reacted to (before I knew) was a poodle. You don’t want to find DH is struggling a month in … that would be awful for all of you. Not sure if you could borrow sister’s dog (think you said sister)?

Dunnocantthinkofone · Yesterday 23:35

A poodle mix is a VERY bad match for you OP

  1. you specifically don’t want a poodle. So if it takes after that side of the family, you’re screwed
  2. you want low shedding but if it takes after the spaniel side of the family, you are also screwed
  3. if it takes on both of these attributes as it could very easily, you are doubly screwed

Add that to the almost non existent chance of finding a reputable breeder or even the most basic health checking …….