Aibu to get a puppy cavachon?

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A friend of my aunt has a litter of cavachon puppies. She has both of the parent dogs. Our boys have been begging us for a dog for years (12,9&5). I had a King Charles growing up, my mum currently has a bijon frise. Aibu to ask the drawbacks of having a cavachon (and first dog for the boys?) I am a sahm so would be home most days. Also the dog is bright red- is that unusual for a cavachon?

I agree, Called. Many breeds need a complete overhaul.

Considering how difficult it is to rescue a dog from re-homing centres I doubt very much you would be allowed to rehome- with all your problems

Also, if you mean my disabilities, as that's the only "problems" I have, how incredibly ableist of you. Why do you think a disabled person shouldn't have a dog and would be refused? You are aware of assistance dogs, surely?

Mongrels are known to be more healthy and Hardy than breeds that have been bred purely to kc specifications.

See, this ridiculous statement really pisses me off. So the pp whose ‘pomsky’ just had hip replacements is healthier than my pedigrees?

Your statement is erroneous because the ONLY way to try to ensure healthy puppies is to health test (hipscores etc) the parents. You might be lucky and get healthy crosses/mongrels but if you don’t health test, then that’s pure chance/luck. Yes, the KC has a lot to answer for, including allowing the registration of offspring of a cavalier stud who is known to have syringomyelia, but if it’s a pedigree, it can be registered, barring certain conditions (double blue Merle, over 4 litters same bitch etc).

There’s a lot of shit talked about on here about pedigree v non-pedigree, but it’s about time the whole all mongrels are healthier than pedigrees myth was exploded.

Due to demand, yes, designer cross breeds have become popular and it’s a damned shame that a non shedding breed like a bichon or poodle isn’t considered. I know more shedding labradoodles than non-shedding. People don’t do their research.

Professor ODFOD! I live within your region. I foster for Many Tears. I muck out and dog walk for Many Tears and I can tell you now there is no way on this earth would any rescue centre allow you to rehome a dog, never mind 3! You claim this was before you became disabled (reading your MN history it seems you don't know when that was). Only last week you claimed to be still teaching..

Anyway even if it was before you became disabled and you were teaching, full time, no rescue centre would allow someone to rehome a dog if they were out at work all day.

I'm not usually an angry person. In fact I'm the most chilled out person. I have nothing to be stressed about. But your ridiculous posts have riled me tbh. Simply because you seem to have a plaster for every sore and you are so transparent. Remember to be a good liar you have to have a good memory.

Anyway have a nice life with your ridiculously, transparent egotistical fantasies.

I'll have a great life with my cross breed. He is the best dog I have ever owned and makes my life complete. I don't I've a monkeys fuck what you think about cross breeds. With your attitude maybe your cross breeds would be better off being rehomed. That's if you have 2 cross breeds, obviously. I very much doubt it! Billy Liar has nothing on you!

Just read your last reply 're assistance dogs. Yep because you will be able to rehome an assistance dog from a re-homing centre... of course dear!

My labradoodle sheds. I got him as I wanted a cross breed with the intelligence and sprightliness of a poodle and the loyalty of a lab.

I swear he is the best dog in the world

Ahh, I've just read back and you own a designer mongrel "cockapoo". Now I realise why you're so angry - you've added to the problem and are feeling guilty! Dear me.

You have an odd tone! Yes, I have a certain amount of guilt that I haven’t adopted an older dog, that’s true. But I have young children and want a bomb proof dog; which they are. I knew what I was getting, I work, I don’t have the time in my life just now to help a dog with issues.

That will change as I get older I hope.

But I would always adopt these cross breeds that I have fallen for. They are brilliant dogs.

I don’t see the snobbery on your part. All domestic dogs descended from wolves and were crossed and bred for various characteristics. That is all that is happening here. I don’t know what you want me to say - you disagree with me and I think your support of the KC and pure breeds bizarre. Live and let live and let’s all enjoy our dogs.

I thought Many Tears rescue had a great reputation. No doubt the owner would be interested to know her reputation is being trashed by a poster on mumsnet.

Many Tears is not my local rescue centre. Not sure why you think I live anywhere near there. I've reported you to Mumsnet for being abusive and trying to out me though. What my wheelchair and weight has to do with my opinions about dog breeding I don't know. Utterly disgusting.

@Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow You do know that there are a lot of pedigree dog breeds that are bred as companion dogs and have never been working dogs right?

My pedigree dog is a show champion, has won best of breed at crufts and is perfectly healthy thanks. His breed has always been bred for companionship, not working.

Also reported Tatty for the sizeist/disablist comments. No need. Resorting to personal insults just demonstrates a lack of ability to debate in a decent manner.

I’m not too fond of Manytears either, given their location I dare say they don’t have much choice (?) but they take in ex puppy farm breeding stock and I think they shouldn’t. Saying that, I think the Welsh government is an absolute disgrace for allowing puppy farms, but money obviously speaks louder than words.

Also reported Tatty for the sizeist/disablist comments. No need. Resorting to personal insults just demonstrates a lack of ability to debate in a decent manner

There you go...try looking at Professor Moody's posting history. Everything I have stated she has stated herself...

Many Tears do indeed take in ex breeding stock. What do you think should happen to them?

Wow, this escalated quickly!

YANBU to get a puppy. Kids and dogs are a nice chaotic mix. Having a puppy is a bit like having another baby, but once the first year is out of the way, it usually eases up.

A mixed breed is a lottery - it could favour either of the parents, much like children do. However, we've only ever had rescue dogs and they come with their own surprises. I'd go for it though 😊

However, I do agree with PPs that crossing a husky and a Pomeranian is ridiculous.

Yes crazy I do. It was in response to Moody’s statement that puppies should only be bred for working stock or to improve lines.

I’m glad your dog is healthy

I don't there's anything wrong with crossbreeds at all, I understood that the cross breeding can avoid some of the health issues although happy to stand corrected.

Saying that, our cavalier came from a reputable breeder and had all health checks. She developed mitral valve disease when she was 6 and died when she was 7. It was devastating. But any dog can succumb to any number of health conditions

If you can provide a happy and stimulating home then I'd get whatever breed is suitable for your family. Rescues aren't suitable for everyone and can bring a host of issues with them. You're just as likely to end up with problems from a rescue as you are health issues from a pure breed. It's a gamble pet owners take even if you take all steps to avoid it.

Just be the best owner you can to whatever breed you get and you can't go far wrong.

Where have I said I live in Carmarthen?! I most certainly don't. I may have referred to it as my county in reference to my teaching, as I have taught there. Goodness me.

Called - some breeds are indeed companion dogs, so breeding them is fulfilling the purpose of the breed. Toy breeds etc - nothing wrong with that, as long as thoroughly health tested.

Maelstrop - thanks. Mumsnet are looking into the user for various reasons

I completely agree with regards to Welsh puppy farms - it's absolutely appalling that it's allowed. To them though, dogs are the same as cows, sheep etc and are just livestock being sold for money. They couldn't care less about rescue centres, health tests or potential owners. It's awful.

Unfortunately by rescuing the ex puppy farm bitches, it adds to the problem. The farms know that they can use a bitch and palm it off on a certain place, so it justifies what they're doing. The rescue will accept bitches of certain breeds that are popular at the time and they know will sell well. Have you seen how much they charge for a dog? It may come across as doing good but behind the scenes it isn't so good. Not like places that will take any dog in danger and care about where they go and any charge is minimal to cover neutering and food costs.

Have a look and see how many dogs are there that aren't small toy breeds, pretty spaniels or designer crosses. Not many, I'll bet. The most popular breed in rescue is usually staffs and staff crosses.

You're asking in the wrong place. We at MN would never even dream of getting a puppy/dog that isn't a rescue, and god forbid it should be a mixed breed! 😱🙄