Aibu to get a puppy cavachon?

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A friend of my aunt has a litter of cavachon puppies. She has both of the parent dogs. Our boys have been begging us for a dog for years (12,9&5). I had a King Charles growing up, my mum currently has a bijon frise. Aibu to ask the drawbacks of having a cavachon (and first dog for the boys?) I am a sahm so would be home most days. Also the dog is bright red- is that unusual for a cavachon?

Oh and had an older dog so puppy had company. Puppy is now 3yo and seems perfectly happy.

@Maelstrop we have a cross breed - king charles x jack russell never had any problems with him.

Apart from the issue of potential health problems your 5 year old is too young to have a puppy in the household. The other two okay but 5 year old, NO.

Cavachons are fantastic dogs. Very good with kids and other animals. They do like being with you so not one you can leave alone for too long, but are very affectionate. The majority of them tend to not malt which is super handy.
Bright orange strikes me as a cavapoo rather than a cavachon, but both are great regardless.

no health issues whatsoever with ours (or his six brothers and sisters) - we're all in touch and do regular reunions

@Manicmij can I ask why you think 5 year olds are too young for a puppy?

With this mix you're likely to end up with a dog with heart failure or joint problems unfortunately. Bright red is unheard of for either breed.

We have a cross breed (pomsky). My son had his heart set on a husky but I didn’t think we’d manage a whole one. We were very unlucky as she had to have both hips replaced and she’s just turned two.

Despite the fact she has literally cost us thousands (insurance didn’t cover it all) I’d not change her for the world.

Unless a 5 year old is a placid, laidback nature there will be a tendency to look upon a puppy as a toy. This is when teasing, not knowing or understanding when to leave the pet alone. Yes puppies need handling, playing with but there is a limit to how much and when. Especially when there is a desperate yearning for a puppy it will be difficult to get the message through. Unless of course you are prepared to have an excitable, difficult to control dog. A dig will only take so much just as a human before it retaliates one way or other.

OP who is this person, why is she giving the puppies away for free when she could be making hefty sum of money? Are you absolutely 100% sure this is legit?

As you know, Ireland has a huge problem with puppy farming. The amount of dogs euthanised in Irish pounds is higher than anywhere else.

I am not trying to make you feel bad, I know how hard it is here in Ireland to actually get accepted for a rescue. Have you looked at cavaliers in need NI? They are fantastic and do cover all of Ireland. www.facebook.com/CavaliersInNeed/

I will add I love cavachons and they make a fantastic pet. There is a brilliant FB group cavachons UK I think it is called - you could try asking more there.

We have a mongrel rescue and he is the best dog and gets massive compliments wherever we take him. The mumsnet hatred for 'mongrels' yet insistence all dogs should come from rescues is baffling to me. Ours seems to be a cross of lhasa apso and miniature schnauzer (schnapso haha). So he is a designer rescue dog

@PrivateDoor I follow Cavaliers In Need NI as well (despite not being a dog owner, and not looking for one anytime soon!).

It amazes me the amount of puppies and very young dogs they have come through, both pure bred and mixes. Very sad to see the obvious results of people not doing their research before committing to an animal.

emmakc1977 that’s because you mixed a large stocky breed with a toy breed, bound to cause joint problems. Cavaliers and poodles are much more suited to cross.

celestia26 they are just as likely to not have any problems.

A mix of 2 pedigrees often means less health problems not more. Pedigrees are so in bred to get particular features that some pedigree breeds have lots of health problems - strange how some think pedigrees are more healthy than 'mongrels'... but that's the KC for you.. perhaps people should stop buying 'pedigrees' and fueling the greed of professionals making money.... what is wrong with buying from a small family breeder?

For other people buying -as long as not buying from a puppy farm and checking all health checks have been carried out, can see the sire and dam and fit healthy dogs with full health records and not had too many litters...just do you research first.

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I'm a bit confused, how is this "backyard breeding" and unethical? Is the suggestion that only pedigree, KC registered type dogs should breed?

Surely lots of lovely cross breed and mongrel pet dogs are the puppies of family pets like OP describes? "

There is some 'form' of snobbery where some people 'feel' superior by judging a crossbreed such as a labradoodle.... yet some of those think the deformed German Shepherd at Crufts a couple of years ago is good breeding.... breeding deformities into dogs to get a certain head size/back slope etc is obscene.

People who breed crossbreeds deliberately do it for one reason and one reason only. Money. They are all puppy farmers, farming dogs for money IMO.

Some people who breed pedigree dogs do so for the same reason.

Those are two types of people that I would never, ever buy a puppy from.

Decent breeders might breed to provide working dogs, to improve the breed standard or to attempt to outbreed health problems as part of a properly researched scheme.

So people who breed puppies for family pets are automatically bad? We should breed dogs for working stock? Because having a dog to pick up dead birds who have been shot by grown men is OK but having a dog as a family companion isn’t?

I wouldn’t. My in-laws have one and he’s very highly strung. Happy, hates being left alone and doesn’t get on with other dogs.a vet told her that both breeds are stubborn so a mix of both would be very strong willed and hard to train - she was right.

*yappy, not happy!

Professor Moody as you don't own a cross breed I very much doubt you would have first hand knowledge about breeders who breed cross breeds. I have a cockapoo. I am very happy with his breeder. Nothing, but nothing about where he was born and bred rings any alarm bells.

If you don't wish to own a cross breed that's your choice. Nobody is making you.

Give up the witch hunt FFS!

Ticketyboo are you suggesting all cavalier king Charles spaniels hate being left alone, hates other dogs, stubborn and yappy just because you know one who is?

The traits you describe would have come from lack of training and handling rather than breed specific

Tatty - who said I don't own a crossbreed? I own two. Obviously they are rescue dogs. I'd never buy one in a million years.

Calledyou - completely depends on who is breeding them, why they've been bred and whether all the relevant health tests have been done, how old the bitch is, what the breed is etc. Obviously some breeders won't keep an entire litter, which is usually when the others will be sold as family pets.

Oh, and there are other working dogs aside from hunting dogs Pastoral breeds, assistance dogs, sporting dogs, police dogs etc.

Yes but Moody my point is that there is nothing wrong with breeding dogs for family pets. It’s no less noble! Probably far more than breeding for shooting or greyhound racing.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a lovely family pet. And many breeders do that are entitled to make a profit as long as they do so responsibly.

Whereas idiot breeders following Kennel Club bloody standards and ruining perfectly healthy breeds for a “look”? Well that should be criminal.

And it has pushed many dog lovers, like me, away from traditional dog breeding and KC standards. The whole fucking thing is revolting.

I would stroke my doodle lovingly but she’s just destroyed ds2 socks.

I am far far more comfortable with dogs being breed for purpose rather than looks.

This is our cavachon pup