I'd like to breed from my golden retriever bitch.

[thicketofstars]

I have a six year golden retriever bitch. She is, and has always been, perfect in every way. We would like to breed from her and have a few questions for the mumsnet gurus...

1. She was KC registered as a puppy by the breeder. We never completed the transfer of ownership form until tonight, when I completed it online. Although I haven't received a letter of confirmation yet, the process appeared to go through smoothly. HOWEVER, there was a note at the bottom of the page saying 'This service is only available for dogs registered after 7th of July 2008.' My dog was born on 19th of April, 2008 and was already registered by the time we bought her on 12th of June. Does anyone know anything about this or how long we can expect to wait for confirmation?
2. We have put the wheels in motion for the recommended eye and hip tests. We understand this is mandatory to be an assured breeder. We will be going ahead with these tests anyway but are confused about whether they are obligatory to be able to register the litter?
3. Does anyone know the wait period between getting the X rays done and receiving the official score?
4. We are not breeding for the money but because we believe our dog is one in a million. However, we understand that the price for a service (is that how the term is used??) is the cost of one puppy. What does a retriever puppy sell for at the moment?
5. We're having difficulty tracking down a retriever stud dog close to where we live. We've looked at the KC register and 'champdog'. Are we missing any other key websites?

Thanks so much and sorry for the length of this post!

[D0oinMeCleanin]

We had a dog who mothered and nursed whatever it could get its paws on.

We just thought "aww how sweet" we didn't assume he was pining to become a mother.

[rastamam]

Ah, just read the whole thread. Itl be fine, no vet will think its a good idea to breed the poor dog, so all is well as the OP said she will take advice from the vet(very sensible). The vet will explain all about why the dog needs spaying before she dies from a pyo.

[EhricLovesTheBhrothers]

It would be great if QuietTiger would PM her message to the OP to make sure she gets it. The OP might be more likely to listen to her as not being 'anti breeding' as such.

[SpicyBear]

I'm in love oldbag

[flanjabelle]

Hooby you are joking. How netmums of her.

What did it say?

[hoobypickypicky]

No, I'm not joking and she's at it again.

Her first pm was last night - I've only just seen it. It read,

"You're Wrong.

As stated in my OP, I was always going to proceed with the health checks (which do seem highly necessary to me!). So whilst I was going to do all that anyway, I was confused about what was actually demanded by the KC in order for registration. As a result of asking the question, you seem to have assumed that I wouldn't be doing the checks if I thought I could get away with it. There, you were wrong."

I replied just now with,

"How cowardly. If you have something to say, say it on the thread."

She came back with,

"If I have something to say to ONE person, I will say it to them in the most straightforward way possible. I wished to say that to YOU. However I've already seen how judgemental you can be so it's not surprising that you choose to retreat into that rather than honestly respond. You were wrong. That's all."

My reply was,

"I can read it on the thread just as well as I can here. You know how to highlight user names to get an individuals attention. Don't pm me again. I'm not interested in anything you have to say"

I hope that's the end of it.

[ADishBestEatenCold]

It's September, and OP has not yet arranged hip scoring, eye tests, etc. Nor has she yet started looking for a stud dog.

The bitch is already six years old so it seems as likely as not that this poor old girl could well be seven years old, not six, before she whelps her first litter!!!!

I am absolutely horrified that OP doesn't even want to engage with the many posters who are trying to explain that her bitch is too old. Poor dog!

[hoobypickypicky]

I'm getting fed up of getting ridiculous pm's from the OP. I've just received a third. I've already told her to say anything she has to say to me on the thread and not to contact me again. How many more times do I need to say it?

[SqueakyChicken]

Excellent post QuietTiger! (And good luck with your girl).

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

You can block the sender hooby

[hoobypickypicky]

I will in a moment, 70. She seems to be determined to get a reaction. It's boring tbh.

I've told her to say what she wants to on the thread and that I'm not interested in receiving pm's from her. She is reading the thread still - she's got the arseache because I've posted her pm's on here.

The latest one is
"I thought you might be more open to hearing me clear my name without the temptation to bully me before 'onlookers'. No one likes false accusations. It's disappointing that you have no interest in considering how you were mistaken and harsh. I had tried responding to you on the thread but it had been ignored. I'll be putting a complaint into mumsnet re: your original messages regarding the completely unwarranted hostility. You're not someone I would want to have anything further to do with or take advice from. That's all I have to say."

For someone who wants nothing to do with me she's going a very odd way about it.

[BingoBonkers]

Funny how people turn nasty when they don't get the response they desire. When I first read the opening post my initial reaction was TROLL!

[VenusRising]

You know, I've read this thread with my jaw dropping.

There is no way in hell I would be interested in a pup from such a litter.

I very much doubt anyone else would pay for one either.

It's such a shame that the OP seems to think that because her bitch picks up hedgehogs that she's maternal, or something!

She's probably bored, and would like to play fetch.

I hope the OP just relaxes about breeding and just enjoys her doggy. And gets her spayed.

It can be difficult to change minds especially if everyone is advising you against what you thought you'd like to do OP, but I do hope you change your mind, and just let your lovely doggy enjoy her life and that you don't put her through this uncertain and dangerous ordeal.

Maybe talk to a friend or two about your own personal and psychological reasons why you are even considering this last gasp attempt.... Your bitch is very old to even be thinking about breeding from her.

it makes me think are you coming to an age where you can't have any (more) kids yourself, and are projecting your desire for a (last) child onto your doggy?

Something to think about maybe?

[Whiskwarrior]

We had a dog that used to pick up hedgehogs.

Was HE maternal?

Wtf? Picking up hedgehogs means dog wants a maternal experience?

Sad thing is, from the way OP responded on here and her continued messaging to Hooby she clearly doesn't see anything wrong with her plans (love how she completely ignored all the stuff about her dog being too old to breed for the first time) and will probably go ahead.

People like this ask for advice but are really only looking for validation.

[tabulahrasa]

I find it interesting that the OP is only interested in sorting out what she was doing about health testing and not the fact that her bitch is too old as well, it seems a bit odd that it doesn't even occur to you to go and check that out after being told it repeatedly...

For what it's worth, I had a dog once that liked to pee on hedgehogs - what do you think that meant? I always just assumed they confused him, but clearly he was trying to inform me that he was missing some sort of experience?

[Whiskwarrior]

Your dog had some serious sexual ishoos tabulahrasa and was clearly into watersports - you should have got him some psychiatric help

[tabulahrasa]

Ah he was neutered early at the rescue...that would explain it, lol

[hoobypickypicky]

Bingo - bingo!

So do I.

[wantacatplease]

OP: I want to breed my 6 year old dog.

All of Mumsnet: Your dog is too old to breed.

OP: But I want to breed my 6 year old dog.

[Owllady]

It made me :o that the dog has expressed a desire to have puppies

[wantacatplease]

...by picking up baby hedgehogs.

I think the fundemental problem here is you expressly asking how much a puppy would go for in your OP.

The motive is obvious.

[GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt]

The OP doesn't care that the dog is too old.

That's the long and short of it.

Poor dog.

[wantacatplease]

In fact, I wonder if the OP is...joking...for lack of a better word, here. I mean, c'mon, asking "how much does a retriever puppy sell for at the moment?"

Anyone who can use the internet, including my 8 year old son, could find that information out incredibly easily and quickly by doing 5 minutes research on Google instead of asking a parenting forum's dog board.

Is this your way of thinking you'd start some kind of heated debate, OP?

[GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt]

Could well be on a windup mission, yes.

[SignYourNameInBrownAndFlame]

OMG I'd missed the implication that because the OP's dog picks up baby hedgehogs, she must have a thwarted maternal instinct!

She's a retriever. That's what they do. They're bred to carry stuff in their soft mouths. Our (male, neutered) springer will pick stuff up and carry it round at the slightest provocation. It doesn't mean he's dying to be a daddy (which is just as well, given his lack of pods).

If the OP isn't even aware of such basic breed characteristics...yeeshk.