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very sick puppy - hand holding please

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namechange74 · 12/02/2014 14:58

My pup was castrated yesterday due to a lost testicle - we were advised this was sensible as it could cause cancer in later life if not removed. I collected him from the vets at 2pm and he has been vomiting ever since - all through the night, all day today. He can't even keep water down. He is clearly disorientated and occasionally gets up and tries to run somewhere before falling over.
I am so worried and upset. I've called the vets and am taking him at 3:30 but sat here and just wanted some support really before i go.

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coffeeinbed · 13/02/2014 23:07

Is that how you know if they are dehydrated Daisy?
I sways worry because my dog never seems to drink.
Does it work on older dogs, not just puppies?

daisydotandgertie · 14/02/2014 13:21

Yes, it is a useful way of knowing whether to worry on both puppies and adult dogs.

Skin should ping back into place - if it doesn't, then it is important to seek some help. Try it when your dog is well, so you know what it's usual fall back rate is.

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namechange74 · 14/02/2014 14:58

Hi guys
Well we took him to another vets this morning as he was sick again last night and twice this morning. He's on a drip, anti sickness, and antibiotics Hmm they're seeing if he's sick through the anti sickness as if he is, there's a bigger problem. The new vets were amazing and really sympathetic, unlike last one. Should know how he's faring later, they said they would call about 5pm. I'll update then. X

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Blithereens · 14/02/2014 15:18

GOOD! I thought he should be on a drip and anti-emetics days ago, and I am only an internet stranger! Grrrr. Very pleased that your new vets are good, though, and hoping your little lad gets well soon.

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namechange74 · 14/02/2014 15:50

Thanks blithereens. It's been a shit week, I want him home all bouncy and crackers like he was before.. Hmm I'll let you know what the outcome is later

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coffeeinbed · 14/02/2014 16:40

Hope pup's finally in good vet hands, Namechange.
Thanks Daisy, I'm off harassing the dog.
Grin

GimmeDaBoobehz · 14/02/2014 16:48

I hope he is Ok today poor thing;(

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namechange74 · 15/02/2014 12:53

Update: Little namechange is much improved. He came home last night and hasn't been sick since he was on his drip/anti sickness. He's been back to the new vets this morning for a check up, further anti biotic injection and painkiller. New vet said she wanted to re-do his stitches as they were so badly done (obvs she didn't!)
He has been running outside this morning in the wind, barking at the postman - we are seeing glimpses of our little boy again Grin
Thank you all for your advice and support, you are all very kind!

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Blithereens · 15/02/2014 13:10

Oh hurrah, I am so pleased!! Damn that crappy vet but yay for the new one! So so pleased you boy is on the mend!

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namechange74 · 19/02/2014 20:51

Hello just thought i'd post an update.

My lovely boy is back in the vets. Having taken him daily since my last post due to vomiting, today they ran blood tests and sadly the results show he is in renal failure - probably as a result of the anesthetic (i am confident he wasn't poorly before the castration) They are doing everything they can for him - he's on a drip for the next 3 days to try and flush through his kidneys but the vet said we need to be prepared for the worst outcome as the prognosis for recovery is poor.

Needless to say i am completely heartbroken. Typically my husband is away so i'm trying to keep a lid on it in front of my lovely DD but failing miserably.

Anyone got any positive stories of recovery from this condition? from what i've read on the internet it's not looking good for him. I feel so guilty for getting him castrated, he's not even a year old. If i lose him i can't reconcile that his last week will have been this most shit of shit times for him.
so so so bloody unfair on him.

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Urv · 19/02/2014 21:00

Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear this. I've no experience I'm afraid but thinking of you all. What sort of dog is he?

Sorcha1966 · 19/02/2014 21:05

Thats so awful. Was it te length of time he was dry that damaged his kidneys ? If so, in humans an acute kidney injury will often recover. I so hope he is ok..

Thinking of you

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namechange74 · 19/02/2014 21:20

thank you. He is a Schnoodle. (mini schnauzer/poodle cross) and is beautiful. I don't know why his kidneys are damaged, i had to change vets because the one that operated on him (for the castration) didn't give two shits that he was unable to walk/keep fluid or food down etc. We moved him to the new vets last Friday. Praying he can recover.

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HenriettaPie · 19/02/2014 21:26

Praying for your little dog x

motleymop · 19/02/2014 21:31

Me too- praying he's ok

catsdogsandbabies · 19/02/2014 21:33

Hi namechange - I am a vet and usually don't respond to threads about work!
However this is appalling. From your 1st post I would have said your dog had acute kidney injury. The 1st vet sounds negligent. You can complain about vets via the RCVS (see website).
Outcome from this type of problem is variable. Sometimes dogs do have a problem before anaesthetic but are coping, then the anaesthetic and other drugs given push them into failure. An ultrasound scan of the kidneys would help see if this is the case but isn't 100% conclusive.
Is your puppy insured? If not I would be asking the first vet to pay the second vet's bills. They are insured for this and sending home a dog who couldn't keep water down is terrible. Of course they make themselves dehydrated!
sorry you have had a bad experience of my profession. Hope your pup makes some improvements but I am sorry to tell you the prognosis is guarded for this condition in a young dog.

mrsminiverscharlady · 19/02/2014 21:34

His kidneys could be damaged because of severe dehydration. The first vet sounds appalling. I hope your boy is ok.

catsdogsandbabies · 19/02/2014 21:35

PS please do not feel guilty for having him castrated. In the vast majority of cases it is a minor op. You may never know if you pup has been born with a problem (renal dysplasia) that made him prone to develop the problem.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/02/2014 21:36

So sad for you - but I will be keeping my fingers crossed that he does recover.

catsdogsandbabies · 19/02/2014 21:38

Unlikely dehydration damaged the kidneys. Mush more likely there was either a pre-existing problem or his blood pressure was low in the anaesthetic and certain drugs were also given and together these result in AKI.

potas · 19/02/2014 21:49

Has your vet checked for addisons, unlikely but worth a check cos can look like acute renal failure and easily treated.

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namechange74 · 19/02/2014 21:54

Thanks all
catsanddogs thank you for taking the time to post on here. I feel very let down by the first vet. His manner was awful, he made me feel like a hysterical idiot (i wasn't hysterical by the way!) and rebuked all my anxieties by saying that 'Little' was 'milking it', 'making a meal of it' and various other stock phrases. The stitching i have been told (by 2nd vet) was amateur and she wanted to re-do it... Also, when we first collected him from the castration, we were told he was still asleep, i said 'don't worry we will come back later' they said 'no problem we can give him something bring him round'. When they gave him to me, his eyes were rolling to the back of his head and he was shaking uncontrollably - is this normal?
I am insured for this treatment up to £4k i think... however i will definitely be making a formal complaint to the RCVS - thank you for that info. It was something i have had in mind to do. I actually called them today to let them know he was in renal failure but the receptionist said 'i cannot apologise on XXX's behalf' - no words of empathy for us at all - shocking really. Sorry to rant i am just alone and terribly upset and angry.

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BettyMacDonald · 19/02/2014 21:56

I'm not a vet but I am medical (human ICU). I totally agree with the post from cats and the kidney injury. The first vet sounds horrific, " making a meal of it" indeed SadAngry. I really hope your little boy recovers from this.

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namechange74 · 19/02/2014 21:57

catsanddogs sorry to ask you an outright question but i'm clutching at straws here, do you think he stands a chance at all? the vet told me to prepare myself for the worst but countered it with the fact that he's a puppy and so is fit and strong generally and he still has a bit of fire in him - he was apparently pulling the assistant round the garden when she took him for a wee earlier... she also said his phosphorous (?) levels were only 2.05 when they should be between 1.5 -2.0 so she seemed to think this was also a positive - i don't know what that means. sorry again, awful not knowing what you're dealing with ;-(

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Gileswithachainsaw · 19/02/2014 21:59

Oh god how bloody awful so very sorry :(

Your poor baby. I shall keep my fingers and toes crossed Thanks