20 best and worst places to live

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Did anyone see this - I only saw the last few places and I want to know what the others were! Can't even see anything listing them on the C4 website.

All that area around London just fades into a big confusing mass for me..........

Sorry,sorry,sorry. Know I'm bound to have got on someone's t*ts with that comment.

How do you do it Janh???
You should be runnig MI5, woman.

Oh, not sure if they were the top 3 after all but were in top 5 with Guildford and part of Oxon.

i live five minutes away from epsom and ewell, dont see why it is the best place in the country to live.... is nice, but how can it be the best?

nottingham was number 2 because of the high crime rates. apparently i should be wearing a bulletproof vest here!

Well I live in Harrogate. Kinda miffed it was the only Northern town in the top 10 best. Phil Spencer wants to live in Harrogate.

He can move in with me any time

northerner, it'll be the crap weather (esp this side of the Pennines!) - Harrogate must have its own microclimate - "Above average sunshine hours of 1680.3 per year and less rainfall than average"

Just to say, what a load of bull!

Channel 4 have surpassed themselves in the making of this crass, populist, tired programme.

Reading the C4 website their criteria seem more to do with social depravation and wealth than with 'good' or 'bad' (which are in themselves highly subjective).

So in summary:
Living in a northern/welsh town or city is 'bad', living in a southern rural area is 'good'!
SAYS WHO?

Oh, a couple of snobby, ponced up estate agents...
..well they would wouldn't they, higher property prices in the 'good' areas means more money for them!

Perhaps anyone who took the programme seriously who is smug about their good southern rural area should remember the following:
My northern mortgage is alot less than yours for the same house
My shopping and leisure bills are lower than yours
My commuting time is less than yours
I am near the Dales, Lake District, Scotland and Wales than you are
My facilities are provided free by the council and not by expensive members clubs
My car doesn't have to be a minimum of a BMW 5 series, thus costs me less than you
My neighbours are friendly, smile and talk to me
etc...

Not so smug now!

Have to agree with you Raspberry, I love living up north now and can fondly remember being shocked when staff in shops chatted to me and were friendly instead of acting like I was a nusiance as they do elsewhere......
Thought the programme was utter tripe TBH and I normally love Phil and Kirsty (esp Phil )

Raspberry, I don't think anyone here really took it seriously or is smug about where they live! These Ch4 Top Whatever progs are always controversial and crap (but they get people talking!)

Kirsty is living proof that money doesn't buy taste. Gawd, someone send Trinny and Susannah to hers immediately! How she is permitted to on national television looking like she does is beyond me. Those naff tights and shoes! Too many accessories! Looks like she raided Adamn Ant's wardrobe back in his heyday and hasn't bought clothes since.

Whoopi Goldberg has better fashion sense.

The whole show was a joke! Southeast = good, North, Wales, Scotland and NI = bad. No surprise there!

Let 'em keeing thinking that .

But you can't really argue with the 10 worst (can you?)

I grew up in Redcar (only 15 mins from Middlesbrough) and worked in Middlesbrough for 3 years and still ahve family there, and yes it is pretty dire. Also have family in Hull, and yes, that's pretty dire too.

I live in dodgy Hackney (obviously, the posh bit)

Well the programme may have been a load of old Southernist toss but don't assume that those of us in the Home Counties are smug about our alleged BMW habit, or shun our neighbours.
I didn't even bother watching it, tbh.
The lifestyles depicted are always polarised and as you say, based on an objective sample of two of the presenters' friends and an evening round a table in a W1 Tapas Bar...

agree about Middlesbrough, but I thought bits of Hull were quite nice, I lived in a big Victorian house when I was there (Hessle?)

yes, Marina, me & dd1 watched a man being arrested outside the tube this morning (think he'd caused a ruck on the bus), best entertainment she's seen all week

I live down the road form Epsom and Ewell too and cant say I think its that great at all. Sure places like E&E and the Mole Valley are great if you have plenty of money and a nice house and a car etc etc. But try living there and having to rely on the bus!!! Its just outside the London bus zone and the buses are crap and very expensive.

Prefer Cheam village anyday. Now all I need is a large payrise and Ill have one of the lovely little cottagees by the park at the back of the High St

WEll I'm just gonna have to promote Harrogate to teh best place to live. WE have fab bus services, Yorkshire Dales nearby, great schools, low crime and friendly Northerners

Victorian houses all over the city bundle. A friend bought a 5 bed, 3 storey Victorian terraced house last week for under £190K.

I get really fed up when Hull gets constantly slagged off by ill-informed, stuck up prats like those two. OK, so parts of the city are pretty dire, but which city can't you say that about?

I was already annoyed before I read the comments on the C4 website - what a load of absolute tripe the stuff on there is!

Missed this, did it confirm that Oldham was the best place? Thought so.

oo, I have just started working for Express Gifts who also have offices/warehouse in Chadderton (I'm at Accrington) and my trainer is so rude about the people who work at Chadderton...I mean Accrington's no great shakes either, can Chadderton really be worse???

Chadderton is the best place in Oldham I think, not that I know much about it, have only been here 2 years or so. I work in Mcr (phew) so don't shop there or go out etc.

SaintGeorge, was also impressed by Hull's:

art gallery

and

lack of dog poo on streets

SG totally agree,
I personally think hull is very nice and to be honest as I work driving around hull, from what I have seen, from what I have seen there are only a tiny handfull of rough areas, bl**dy hell what about scunny the magority of it is baddddd (but I guess it's not a city)

I had a uni interview at Hull (ahem, some time ago now) and liked the city a lot. I was less impressed specifically with one of the departments I'd have been studying in, but would happily have lived there otherwise.
Bundle, LOL. Was dd1 shouting encouragingly at the copper? Ds is always volubly appreciative of the forces of law and order