Regenerated - The New Doctor Who thread

[KayHarker]

I thought it would be high time to get the TARDIS party going, now we're on a countdown. Has anyone else seen the clip from the first episode yet? Looking like good fun. I might even be persuaded to squee.

Dr said Amy forgot because he was a big part of her history, the other blokes were only minor& she may have forgot them by now.

I keep thinking the next one looks good & it doesn't quite fulfil but DWM has the last few in now & they look good

How come the Doctor could stick his arm in the crack to get the piece of Tardis and emerge unscathed, yet they couldn't rescue Rory because it was too dangerous?

Well it would have been Rory's body I suppose but even so...

• yes you're right Pixel "If it catches up with you, you will never have existed at all".... but sticking your hands in up to the armpit is fine!! like I say...

SDG You may be on to something there!

I think...Matt Smith is a better Dr than DT or CE but the scripts are getting worse and worse. Tonight was a new low - awful acting from Amy Pond, cheesy stuff about Vincent going into the future to see how successful he will be, pointless monster and that horrible overpowering music. Is Stephen Mangan going to be the death of DW?

I thought that there were moments of magic in tonight's episode! It gave me hope......

Haven't watched tonight's yet...but have really been underwhelmed by the acting and writing so far. Last week/week before two parter much improved writing. Unfortunately Amy EXTREMELY irritating and not too bothered by Doctor either. At least he spoke more slowly and normally last week.

Think writing is so lazy, making up convenient excuses for things appearing that haven't any link to past episodes/story lines/DW lore etc etc. Anybody could write if you were allowed to do that!

Hoping I'll be further convinced into watching this week.....

If you don't like lazy writing Delta I'd definitely avoid tonight's. Apparently after 40 odd years of telling us that DW mustn't interfere in people's lives (remember all that stuff about Rose's dad?) it turns out that he can take vincent out of his time and then return him and Amy can influence vincent's art and god knows what all. But it's ok because he still kills himself. It was cheap and crappy and offensive to anyone who reveres Van Gogh

I hate to say it but tonights was awful, really self indulgent and, well just rubbish.

The last 10 minutes were really, really bad - that would never have been allowed to happen with the other Doctors and I think that the writers have forgotten some of the 'rules'.

It feels like this episode and the next are just filler episodes for the big 2 part finale - thrown together and badly thought out.

(I did like the Bow-tie bit with Bill Nighy though)

(whisper) I quite liked tonight's episode. I know it was cheesy and broke the rules, but it was classic Richard Curtis - I am surprised Hugh Grant wasn't playing the Doctor as a special one-off

I have to agree that Amy is killing this series as she just seems very immature. Someone wlse should tell her there is a difference between kooky and plain irritating.

There has been such potentil this series, but great ideas have been murdered by awful writing - for the first time it seems like a really simple children't programme with the occasional bit that baffles the kids. I was expecting so much more from Steven Moffat.

I had great hopes for Amy at the beginning - but she is very one-dimensional and I find her affectedness is grating on me more and more each episode.

Preferred this episode to the last two, but I was still reading the paper while watching - which I would never have done before! Ds1 said ' well, that was a bit boring actually' when it finished.

I agree with shade of violet. Canon just goes to the wall in this episode, yet rabid fans love it (surprise surprise, seeing as it's part of moffat's era).

Honestly the hypocrisy of the fans of Dr Who really gets to me. They cry constantly about the mawkishness and over emotional shite of the RTD era. Erm hello did you actually watch Vincent and the Doctor? So fooking mawkish and over emotional, not to mention freaking boring.

I don't get it I really don't. tbh, if Amy and the current Dr are remaining after this series I don't think I will watch.

wow, how bandy were MS's legs!

It was terrible tonight. And agree monster was pointless.
Can't take too much more of Amy Pond either.

I actually thought this episode as slightly better, not by much though.

I am trying to like the new series but it is awful. MS is ok but Amy Pond is spoiling it. Even DD (8) said she wished the monster had eaten Amy this week. It is exactly like a kids program now, having lost the clever and interesting bits.

Well the Vincent MacGogh episode was a load of bollocks wasn't it? Could it have been any more miserable?

@ 'macGogh' Kaloki but the trouble for me was it wasn't miserable enough. What utter BS to go back to a famously tormented life and try to repaint it as someone who's just a bit lonely and down on themselves. Another detail that really got my goat - when they went back to vincent's nice cosy little gaff, and he said 'coffee anyone?' exactly as if he was going to switch on the kettle and crack open the Nescafe. I'm sure that all seemed very 'cute' when they were writing it but it's got bugger all relation to the real man and his real life.

This whole series reeks of ego trip, over-indulgence, people being given carte-blanche as long as they turn out a glossy and commercial product. Where is the charm? The strangeness? The crazy creativity?

i loved it. the doctor trying to 'snap' vincent 'out of it' and being told to sod off - Tony Curran, listening to Bill Nighy revering him... yes a bit mawkish - wouldn't expect anything less/more from Curtis - I had a good cry. I thought depression dealt with sensitively and adequately for tea time on a saturday and as an introduction to the illness for younger viewers and people less tolerant and more ignorant of an illness that can have such a terrible effect.

I agree persephonesnape.
I thought it was very sweet and moving and the fact that even the glimpse into his future success couldn't change his fate says more about the nature of depression than most portrayals of it.

I'm not getting why you lot are so down on this series.
I think it is huge fun and am loving MS.

I'm loving the new Doctor and Amy, so it's gutting that the writing is letting them down.

I thought it was an awful portrayal of depression tbh

I have a sneaking suspicion that MS also agrees with most of our views on Amy Pond (and indeed on Karen Gillan). All the stuff I've seen on the website and on confidential shows him taking the mick out of Karen for her affectedness.

about the Van Gogh episode.

It is just like a kids programme isn't it? It's lost something. Depth?

I think MS is doing fine though. Amy is rubbish and the writing leaves a lot to be desired though. It's heading back towards the Sylvester McCoy years...