Question Time - With Nick Griffin

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anyone else watching to see the vile pig legitimate political leader make an arse of himself himself understood??

bobbingforpeachys - LMAO at your email address. Seriously tempted to change my hotmail address to this

I know this is a bit childish an'all, but someone has just sent me this link

oope just noticed someone else has posted it on another thread. New York, New York, so good they names it twice.

apparently there were 700 million viewers and about 350 complaints. (some complaining that he was on)
I'm watching bbc news atm, they are devoting a whole programme of Newswatch to it.

Also a bit childish, and not helping the ooh-the-poor-boy-is-terribly-persecuted thing, but I thought this YouTube video was funny.

sorry, I got the figures wrong, I started writing the number then got distracted and wrote it too!
More like 7 million.

[how embarrassing]

I've had a bit of a shock though today so I feel I can be excused.

Prof Layton, that was brillian

"and thats why I should be deported and everyone else can stay"

Classic.

Just seen on BBC1 news headlines that Dick Griffin is making a formal compliant against the BBC.
He was victimised.
Poor boy, not nice is it, to be picked on because of what you believe in or who you support!!!!

Oh the how irony must be flying over Dicks head.

oh I do love all these racist's playing the victim

Yougov poll.
22% would vote.
66% never vote for them.
43% feel they have a point for standing up for the white British person, but would still not vote.

I have been speaking to my step dad and mum, and he said they are going to vote bnp. He said he was going to join.

It is so sad that in this country people are too scared of being called a rascist if they want to express any form of opinion with regards to immigration.

That is what sends people to the BNP. Not anything else.

the Yougov poll does not surprise me and I do not think the people who said they would vote are all racists either. They just feel disillushioned and they feel they are not being represented.

Mainstream political parties have left a gap that has been filled by BNP. We are in an exraordinarily deep recesison which we are not pulling out of but still going in to. GDP figures were -0.4% today and expected to be positive. People are losing their jobs in droves, people have lost their pensions, their house is worth a lot less an dpeople are in a lot of debt. Meanwhile, they see mainstream politicians and bankers just making themselves rich. They see immigrant getting benefits, school places and healthcare while they feel poor and or waiting for a decent school place or waiting for an NHS bed in a decent hospital.

People feel frightened and they feel abused and ignored. Fertile ground for a new political party to take root. BNP are a symptom (and some see as a cure) of a something much more serious that mainstream politicians are not getting to grips with.

people look for scapegoats they look to the government to 'blame' them for the fact they bought 7 50 inch tvs on credit

bnp play on this - lapping up the disillusionment any saying that they will make things better - the basis of how they would govern eludes me

I think the poll confirms how stupid a large percentage of people in this country are. Scary

'People feel frightened and they feel abused and ignored'

crikey - I can't imagine a more frightening prospect than a fascist government. I suspect it wouldn't be long before they started exterminating those of us they felt didn't fit in with their cause.

A friend said to me recently that they had considered voting for the BNP because they weren't happy with Gordon Brown's administration.

I said 'do you know what they stand for? Do you know that they would advocate vigilante mobs to control street crime, that they think rape is ok.....I could go on, and all this is quite apart from the vile racism'

'I must admit I have not looked at their policies' said he.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps this is generally representative of those who say they would consider voting for the BNP. They have been lulled into a false sense of security. They think what happened in Nazi Germany could never happen here.

Electra. Most people who do vote would be hard pushed to explain what the party policies are of their chosen party.
A Labour party voter, votes because they think Labour will give more money to the poor while taking more from the rich.
A Conservative voter will assume that the Conservatives will lower taxes and reduce benefits, all the while giving more to the rich.

These are obvious sterotypes but we are all making the same mistake by assuming that Joe on the street knows exactly what the BNP really stands for.

That is why they are so dangerous and should be given more time to get their real policies heard so those people who think that a BNP vote is going to get them a job are completely miss-guided.

I think that's a generalisation, ronshar and I wouldn't count myself as one of those people.

I do agree though that people need to know what the BNP is about, what it is really about. I cannot believe that anyone would cast a vote without first looking at the policies - I never have - surely not?

Seriously Electra I completely agree with you. It is a generalisation.
But the unfortunate truth is that less than 50% of people in this country vote, ever. Of that % how many do you think actually take the time to read the Manifestos of each party, think it through and then vote according to which party seems to want the best for our country.

Go out in the high street on any day, ask a random selection of people who the shadow education spokesman is, or who the Environment Minister is. I can put money on the fact that most would not be able to tell you.
Given that, think about how many actually vote with their heads or according to who their parents voted for etc.

I remember an edition of The Saturday Night Armistice where they offered the studio audience cash if they could identify photographs of members of the Shadow Cabinet, rising to a whole vanload of cash for one particularly nondescript individual. No one could.

I blush to admit that I have trouble remembering who's currently who, although I do think that's partly because they are all more identikit and seemingly interchangeable than they used to be. Or maybe I'm just getting old.

the yougov poll has been manipulated so don't beieve everything you read.

Aitch said "yes, i'm trying to watch it through the eyes of someone whose vote might swing to them. i think he hasn't been treated the same way that politicians normally are.

thankfully they're watching katie price's latest show on itv2."

ROFFLE!

Peope who vote BNP are racists.

They are voting because of the immigration issue. However the immigrants they are unhappy about are not the nice, blue eyed ones from France, Swedan, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or USA.

It is the forreners with the dirty dark skin who come here for the benefits and to take all the jobs and to get free housing.

If the immigrants were only from countries like France, Finland etc, there would be no debate about immigrationa and the BNP would not exist.

The BNP spout on about the indigenous population - ie white. The idiots voting for them know this and that is why they vote for them. If they could throw out all the darkies like me to return the UK to the pure white landscape that it was never was, they would.

Duelingfango

From that link I found this response to the BNP's economic policy.

"With discrimination against white males now illegaly legalised, a feminist promise of the sixties is being fulfilled. They always said that they would eliminate men from the family, the workplace and indeed society itself with successive pieces of legislation. The Labout Party is ridden to the core with these evil witches. These nutters dream of a 'lesbian utopia', the supreme irony being that most of them are heterosexual.

It is amazing that any normal woman with males in her family could feel anything other than outrage when the man hating media boasts that 'The future is female'. Families are already in ruins.

Destroying the family was always a gangplank of Franfurt School philosophy.

As for shareholding, it's been said before that shareholders without a personal stake in a company have no interest in that company other than short term profits. The British National Party is therefore correct to want employees to have a stakeholding in their companies.

Only the BNP can save Great Britain now. Vote BNP June 4th!"

God help this country if these neaderthals ever get elected.

I think one of the most sinister and manipulative aspects of the BNP - and of many people who hold nastily prejudiced views - is that they put themselves in the 'victim' role and actively twist things around to make themselves the victim, the poor person being ganged up on, the meek and vulnerable good soul. This was also a big part of Hitler's character/propaganda, of course.

He is very good at deflecting meaty questions and avoiding anything of substance when talking in public. It is all about perception, roles, the illusion of reason, the clumsy attempts at likeability. And thst is what will encourage people to be very open about their support of the BNp.