posted this on another thread,my views on last nights show:
obviously haven't read all 9 billion or so posts on this thread but thought i'd give my objective (in the sense that i'm not from england or living in england)
i thing nick griffin did alright in the first 20 minutes or so.
had a terrible second 20 when he said things like "i can't tell you why i said that" and a pathetic attempt at a climb down on the holocaust denial thing.
and then finished alright due to the turgid pack around him.
the only reason i think he did alright is because of the awful tactics of both the studio audience and the rest of the panel.
rather than doing what they should have done for every question,give him enough rope to hang himself, they turned it into exactly what nick grffin would have wanted which is a "them against us" situation.
they all seemed to be in an exercise of competitive disgust and media posturing at times which lended itself a pantomime villain feel for griffin where no matter what he said,even if agreeing with someone, it was wrong and anything said about the bnp by the other oanelists,even if it was irrelevant to the question they had been asked or lacked context to the question,was met with rapturous applause.
for me this took attention off the evil crap he was trying to put forward because you become annoyed by the x-factor style booing and lack of nous by the audience and panel.
what also happened is if griffin did make a small valid point e.g. english not being on the census form/you wouldn't tell a maori there's no such thing as an indiginus people/successive governments have fucked up immigration policy it gets washed over and ignored as blindly racist,which while the motivation might be the actual statements can stand alone as not being racist i feel. which is exactly the sort of stuff the bnp lives off as they can show it as a witch hunt,take a small incident and somehow extrapolate it to the point of the country going to hell in a handbasket, and fel their persecution complex.
also for those who were objecting to griffin being on at least i couyld see his point in the debate. I am yet to figure out what bobbi greers was last night. she contributed nothing except for some poor attempts at humour.
By mayorquimby on Fri 23-Oct-09 11:30:25