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Question Time - With Nick Griffin

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Mamazonabroomstick · 22/10/2009 22:08

anyone else watching to see the vile pig legitimate political leader make an arse of himself himself understood??

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StretchStinkyandFatso · 22/10/2009 23:53

Alan Davis is fab though!!!

AitchTwoToTangOh · 22/10/2009 23:53

yes, agree with last few posts. he was barracked by the whole audience and the panel, so fair enough that he got sweaty. anyway, qt's preaching to the choir.

because of this he's going to be on the doorsteps in burnley or wherever saying 'did you see me on QT? i was magnificent, despite it being a soft southern audience who don't understand or care what you're going through up here. they wouldn''t have dared host it up here, would they mrs? etc etc etc

LeninGhoul · 22/10/2009 23:54

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DuelingFANGo · 22/10/2009 23:54

Aitch, do you think that Northerners are all that stupid then. I suppose they are all Eee by gum really aren't they?

madlentileater · 22/10/2009 23:55

we'll see....tis time for bed now
night all

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Mamazonabroomstick · 22/10/2009 23:56

my point exactly Famished.

People are concerned over immigration due to actual immigration and lack of policy and of course due to media scaremonegering.

But because the programme tonight refused to allow any real politcial conversatuon and instead posed all questions to Nick Griffin and his character assasination he was not givenm the chance to prove he has no real policy and to have his claims challenged by real credible politicians.

so those who were maybe thinking of voting for him have not been discouraged by ttodays show. if anythingt juyst encouraged by teh afct that they have been picked on by an asain and black womanm

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AitchTwoToTangOh · 22/10/2009 23:56

yes i do.

MillyR · 22/10/2009 23:57

I agree with Ewe; Bonnie Greer failed to address Nick Griffin's points about what constitutes the 'British,' which was silly as it would have been very easy to discredit his point sensibly and quickly.

cherryblossoms · 22/10/2009 23:58

Aitch - yes. I suspect there are a lot of people who feel they've been ignored by the "metroplitan elite"/"political classes", or noticed enough only to be shafted and patronised and will interpret the whole thing that way.

And yes, I still wonder who, exactly, was watching.

AitchTwoToTangOh · 22/10/2009 23:59

i thought bonnie handled him fairly well, tbh. it's the director and producer i'd take issue with, for making it the nick griffin show rather than qt. how the panellists dealt with him is their own business, but they should all have been answering questions on policy.

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Mamazonabroomstick · 23/10/2009 00:01

i was getting frustrated at thefact that a couple pf people did ask policy questions but DD just kept bruishing them off with " we'll get to that later"

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JustAnotherManicMummy · 23/10/2009 00:02

Yes that annoyed me too. Did they not ask them later? I missed the end because my baby woke up.

SqueezyCheesyPumpkin · 23/10/2009 00:03

He made my skin crawl. See when he was laughing inappropriately

He also told a lot of lies, what he said tonight did not match up with what the BNP website proposes as policy.

I'd say that tonight was a failure for him generally but the people who support him will find excuses for him regardless.

It allows us (non supporters) to see exactly what a sinister character he really is and I am very glad about that.

He creeps me out, big time.

duffpancake · 23/10/2009 00:07

millyr-- that was such a missed opportunity! Would he accord Australian aborigines and native Americans the rights he wants to claim for 'indigenous' Britons? And deport all the arrivistes from those countries? I don't think so.

mamazon-- opinion seemed to take the place of any discussion of policy. I think 5 minutes of letting Nick Griffin outline, uninterrrupted, what Britain would be like, and what laws would be in place, would do far more to turn people against him than endless quibbling about quotes and possible misquotes of his in the media.

AitchTwoToTangOh · 23/10/2009 00:07

actually i just wanted to return to duellingfanjos 'ee bah gum' crack.

if you are from the north of england, duelling, then you do have more reason to be scared of griffin than most, given that the bnp has council seats there and that the north of england was responsible for their two euro seats. so some people are stupid enough to vote for them, that's for sure. (ten per cent for one of the counts, i think?)

so i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss griffin as a joke if i were you. i'm scared of him, and what he represents, and i think that the people who think that he won't parlay this into tremendous political capital on the doorsteps are kidding yourselves.

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AitchTwoToTangOh · 23/10/2009 00:11

yes, duffpancake, they were all too keen to indicate how reprehensible they thought he was... just let the man speak and hang himself. i think he thrives on the conflict, he's certainly more used to that than being treated like any sort of a statesman.

LeninGhoul · 23/10/2009 00:12

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duffpancake · 23/10/2009 00:13

Seriously, I think a lot of people who don't regularly watch QT tuned in tonight (self included! due to not having a TV!) and there was an opportunity there to burst the BNP bubble. And it was missed.

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Mamazonabroomstick · 23/10/2009 00:15

thats what i was hoping for.
it seemed as though the other panelists were more interested in discrediting him and making everyone know that they found him abhorant.

they already know he is an idiot, but there are members of the public that need to find that out form the horses mouth.

he needs to be given a platform on which to do that.

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SqueezyCheesyPumpkin · 23/10/2009 00:17

I don't think he came across well at all. He would have spun this appearance to suit him regardless. He will label it as a success no matter what anyone else thinks, no matter the evidence against him and no matter what the majority of the public thinks. He, not for one second, takes into consideration what the British public thinks, so why would he admit this as possibly his biggest failure yet? A priceless opportunity - ruined.

I imagine something like that Iraqi Minister who kept saying that there were no foreign troops in his country (over and over again), that Iraq were winning the war etc etc. No matter how bad it got, he denied that it was bad.

And I'm not defending that Iraqi man or arguing about Iraq, just saying that the NG spin machine will be working overtime to inject as much positive spin as they possibly can into this shambles that was his appearance.

policywonk · 23/10/2009 00:18

I think it came across as three rather self-satisfied establishment types competing in an 'I hate facists' contest, leaving Warsi (who is INCREDIBLY right wing) as the only person looking properly engaged. It was a disaster for the left.

StretchStinkyandFatso · 23/10/2009 00:19

What was the comment he made on genocide?? I heard the outrage after, but not the comment.

(screaming 5 week old!!)

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JustAnotherManicMummy · 23/10/2009 00:20

Squeezy you are right about the spin. Will be interesting to see what the papers say tomorrow.

Will they be leading with the dodgy stats and comments about indidgenous people being here for 17,000 years or that there was a lot of attacks at the beginning and it deviated from the usual format?