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X-FACTOR!!- it's predictable, it's ridiculous, IT'S GREAT...

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Raahh · 15/08/2008 11:31

I love it.

I am not ashamed to say that i will get totally involved- even though i am too old.

Lets count how many times Louis Walsh says 'westloife'
Watch Simon Cowell look bored rigid.
They will put through a 70 year- just for fun
They will tell a 14 year old she is the next Mariah Carey- and then not put her in the finals- FOR BEING TOO YOUNG!
Everyone one will 'own the song, and make it their own'
or- 'that was a really poor song choice- i blame Louis'
A group WILL NOT WIN.
Marvel at the really poor sob stories!
About half a dozen audtionees will sing 'Valerie/you're beautiful'
Watch Cheryl Cole waste away before our very eyes (how skinny is she????)

I need to get out more

Roll on Saturday!!!

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Raahh · 16/08/2008 20:09

minder alert!!!

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onlyjoking9329 · 16/08/2008 20:11

i haven't laughed so much for ages

Whizzz · 16/08/2008 20:17

yes me & Dh reckon Cheryl will walk & 'good ol' Sharon will return in a blaze of publicity!

turquoise · 16/08/2008 20:19

Why do they have to do the tragedy/beating the odds angle for everyone?
Really scraping the barrel a bit though, using the Bridgend suicide thing.

So many obvious fakes in the crap auditions now though.

ScummyMummy · 16/08/2008 20:20

I hope not- I think Cheryl is coming across as rather fab.

3andnomore · 16/08/2008 20:21

Cheryl and Danni look like Twins

MrsJamin · 16/08/2008 20:47

Did anyone else notice that Danni's eyes look a bit wonky?

Loved the ant and seb audition - v funny.

IllegallyBrunette · 16/08/2008 20:50

Was just coming here to ask if anyone else thought Dannii looked odd ??

Here eyes looked weird but it wasn't just that, her whole face looked strange.

sherbetdipdab · 16/08/2008 21:03

I thought that too! She looked really strange, sort of moon faced or swollen or something.

Can't put my finger on exactly what was weird, she also looked like a pitbull chewing a wasp a lot when Cheryl was coming across very well

tortoiseSHELL · 16/08/2008 21:13

I thought Cheryl did come across well - very direct.

Having read Chart Throb (a definite read for ANYONE who watches X Factor) it does throw the auditions into a different light - the idea of which people are put through for the comedy value etc. As it says in the book - just do the maths of how many audition versus how long it would take for SC to see all of them. Most applicants never get to audition, they don't get given an audition, and all the ones SC sees will have had 3 or 4 auditions by the time they see the judges.

IllegallyBrunette · 16/08/2008 21:15

I do wish that Cheryl wouldn't say 'yeah, no' when they ask her if it's a yes or a no.

turquoise · 16/08/2008 21:19

I thought they did the last bloke a favour (the one from Popstars the rivals) even though it was harsh.

Loved the boy band and the single mum of 5.

wannaBe · 16/08/2008 21:48

it was me who auditioned. Although there were another two mn'ers whose daughters auditioned too.

The audition itself lasted about 30 seconds, well it has to really if they're going to see 15000 people in one day (and 15000 is how many they audition in one day).

From my own person pov, I don't think it has anything to do with talent. I think it's possible to be rejected before you even open your mouth. I imagine there's a list of absolute criteria, and if you don't meet it it doesn't matter how much talent you have you'll never get through.

Personally I don't necessarily think I was good enough to be considered the x factor, but I don't think I was bad enough to be considered good entertainment fodder.

I always used to watch in horror at the truely awful acts that went through, but knowing now that they have to get through at least three auditions before seeing the judges I have to admit I find that totally wrong. to think that they've been at the first auditions and potentially seen good acts not go through and they've gone through, and again, and again, only to be torn apart for other's entertainment. And especially when they're people who clearly have learning difficulties and who could have been gently rejected earlier on in the process.

BlackEyedDog · 17/08/2008 00:00

my SiL auditioned this year. She is apparently a brilliant singer, but didn't make it passed the 30 sec audition. I bet you have to tick many boxes (and fast) to get through. She had a wonderful day though she says.

With regards the deluded peformers I think it's first and foremost an entertainment show and the rubbish ones are blardy funny. The ones you suspect have learning difficulties are very uncomfortable to watch though and that is exploititive.

Danni looked odd. Did she forget to put makeup on? She needed some eyeliner.

Loved the girl with 5 kids.

lovecat · 17/08/2008 13:34

Was it me, or was using the Bridgend suicides particularly tasteless? (not saying the girl in question brought it up, I got the impression this was the producers' 'great' idea as it was all on the voiceover, but still... yick!)

Have to say I lmao over the two who were on first though, where she wasn't awful, but then he just started screeching in his falsetto - as Simon said, it was okay and then you just came on and started screaming at her...

Raahh · 17/08/2008 13:52

dh and I were a bit by the Bridgend bit- not sure what they were trying to achieve. The producers pile on the sob stories- and i don't think it helps. As a viewer, it puts me off the person , regardless of how talented they may be, and thats unfair.

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Remotew · 17/08/2008 13:57

They put some rubbish ones through to the judges just so that they judges and viewers can laugh at them. Then there are the borderliners, not too bad but obviously will never have the X factor, then the ones with real potential. So I the initial assessors are ticking boxes. If you look back at other years most of the ones that make the final 6 are not that talented. Same difference, Eton Road spring to mind. It's not about talent but I still watch it.

I saw a programme on the Danish X Factor. This guy was rubbish but funny and he became a star in his own right. He said that people convinced him he had a chance and he honestly thought it was true. Some of the rejects have made a bit of money out of it here, until the novelty wears off.

MrsJamin · 17/08/2008 15:18

The thing is, watching mediocre singers is just not that entertaining - so of course they can only let the cowell/walsh judging panel see the brilliant ones, and the 'entertaining' ones.

UnquietDad · 17/08/2008 15:37

There are a lot of similarities, I've always thought, between The X-Factor and creative writing classes. Some people are truly terrible and, sadly, don't realise it. You read/listen to them and wonder if they have ever read a modern novel/listened to a genuinely good pop or rock artist in their lives. Some are okay but think that's enough and don't see the huge gulf between that and the standard required to be a professional. And a few are good, of whom maybe one or two a year have what it takes to turn it into a career at some point.

The X-Factor does uncover some talent, but it also fosters the idea that you can go from obscurity to mega-stardom in just a few weeks with relatively little effort - that you are there waiting to be "discovered", honed and shaped by a mentor who will do all the hard work. It gives younger people, especially, a very skewed idea of what any kind of creative industry is like, and just adds to the promotion of instant-gratification culture. The people who are really good at smooth commercial pop - Take That, Robbie, Kylie, the Pet Shop Boys, Girls Aloud - make it sound so easy and effortless, but it just shows how hard it is to get right. (Remember how many wannabe male soloists totally fail to get that high note on "Angels"?...)

Being in showbiz or being a writer, you need to work as hard at it as Olympic athletes do if you want to get to the top of the game. I've heard it said that the number of people making a living out of writing fiction full-time in the UK is about the same as the number of full-time athletes who don't need a secondary job to support them. I wonder what the figures are for musicians.

Must be a bit depressing, though, to be 24 and to be told you're too old to be a pop star. Most of today's big names were only just getting going in their early 20s, surely. It's odd they didn't mention that Nick guy was in the group Phixx (which the Popstars rejects formed). I mean, even I remember them and I don't really follow that kind of music - I quite liked their electro-pop-retro take on boy-band fodder, and I remember bouncing my daughter on my shoulders to them when they did the Sheffield Christmas Lights show in 2003! I think they had a Top Ten hit.

What always astonishes me is the people who have absolutely zero talent. Utterly self-deluded to the point of not understanding what singing actually is. Some of them genuinely are tone deaf. What makes them do it??! You imagine that, if you were to make a list of their talents, singing would be right at the bottom. It would be like me going in for "Footballer Idol"... And their families are there backing them up! Pleading with Simon & co. to "just give 'er a chaaaaaaance!" What's the point of giving someone who is totally talentless a "chance", when they'd be better off doing something completely different? It's a sad indictment of our "culture of entitlement" that people think they have some sort of right to instant fame.

PuppyMonkey · 17/08/2008 17:08

I go back to the point I made much earlier in this thread... it's simple, talentless people do it JUST TO GET ON THE TELLY!!!!

All looks so contrived to me... like those two doing the Peter Andre song. Big surprise, they are now being played on all the radio stations and will no doubt be featured in all those best of the worst clips from this season. Yawn, yawn seen it all before.

Much prefer Big Brother - at least there's a bit of honesty about the motives behind going on that.

DillyTanty · 17/08/2008 17:25

do you mean 'it's simple - talentless people do it to get on the telly' or 'it's simple, talentless people who do it to get on the telly'? cos i'd agree with the second one, the poor bastards.

yes to the pervading culture of entitlement, and NO to 'have they read a good book in their lives?' these people haven't. not one. they've read heat magazine. we should pity them, for they are unnattractive and thick and uneducated, but putting them on tv for the masses to laugh at is bread and circuses. it's shit. and so, for the record, is big brother.

PuppyMonkey · 17/08/2008 17:28

I meant both probably DT

Yes BB is shit. Good though. Unlike X Factor, which is all stage managed.

DillyTanty · 17/08/2008 17:32

bb has story editors...

PuppyMonkey · 17/08/2008 17:40

They don't write the stories though. They try. but they can't predict what will happen

DillyTanty · 17/08/2008 17:49

look, i can't get into it with you really but i know a few people who have worked on it and they try very, very, very hard to guide the stories... you'll just have to take my word for it, you are pretty wrong if you think that BB is any less orchestrated than x-factor, from the minute they step through the door.

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