Welcome to the castle - it gets worse here every day | 2026 Celebrity Traitors Thread 4 [TV Pace]

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Previous thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5587046-welcome-to-the-castle-we-take-it-day-by-day-2026-celebrity-traitors-thread-3-tv-pace?page=1

This is a tv pace thread so make sure you’re up to date with the live broadcast and yes, previous series (regular and celeb) will be discussed!

Please no spoilers if you read them online!

The story so far (as at end of episode 4)

Traitors (still active)
Maya Jama
James Acaster (recruited)
Professor Hannah Fry (recruited)

Faithful

James Blunt
Jerry Hall
Joanne McNally
Joe Lycett
King Kenny
Michael Sheen
Miranda Hart
Sebastian Croft
Sharon Rooney

Up for Murder
Leigh-Anne Pinnock
Rob Beckett
Romesh Ranganathan
RossKemp (full name)

Murdered
Amol Rajan
Bella Ramsey

Banished
Richard E Grant (Traitor)
Myha’la
Julie Hesmondhalgh

True.

Besides, Jerry might not have noticed all the yawning, and nobody would believe Ross anyway, they already think he's paranoid about being murdered.

I'm still wondering whether Sharon picked up anything on Maya's behaviour with the shield.

In the battering ram mission, she knew Maya had one and didn't give it up. And then last episode, they gave it to Maya because she hadn't had one before, and she didn't say anything. That would make me a bit suspicious.

It could have been Sharon luring Kenny away to murder him..

Not all that long to wait now, must go and buy snacks.😋

New thread ready to go, but let’s fill this one up to avoid confusion!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5591799-welcome-to-the-castle-watch-it-bring-you-to-your-knees-2026-celebrity-traitors-thread-5-tv-pace

Have maltesers at the ready!
Really hope Yawngate isn’t going to be a damp squib!

I can't watch live tonight but will catch up tomorrow on the new thread.

As I said a day or so ago, I suspect the plain sight murder will fail. Either the faithful will think there's been another recruitment or Claudia will tell them the traitors failed at breakfast.

Given that they wouldn't be told the details of how the murder failed, then I'm not sure that the yawning would make that much sense. How would yawning in someone's presence murder, or indeed fail to murder, someone? It's not obvious. As a Traitor I wouldn't be too concerned if I failed, as an unexpected thing not happening is very hard to spot!

On a more general note, I wouldn't mind it if they gave all these contrived murder/recruitment scenarios a break for a night. We've only had one 'normal' murder so far this year, I think? (Bella) It means the game doesn't unfold as naturally as usual. And these scenarios all take up extra screen time, which I think is contributing - along with the change in schedule - to the viewera feeling like we aren't getting to see enough of the contestants' general interactions. There's a lack of light relief and we can't connect with the personalities because we are concentrating on these complicated scenarios and their inherent tension too much.

Yes, I wouldn't tell the faithful exactly how the murder was supposed to work, but I would let them know there had been a failed attempt.

And if I were a traitor, I'd try to pin it on whoever it was (can't remember) who called Kenny out of the room!

Of course they are. All players get driven home to their lodgings at midnight, except the traitors who stay behind [doesn't anyone clock who never leaves before them?] But then the Traitors decide to recruit! So Claudia goes a hand written message to the recruitee (that's an hour) and the recruitee accepts and is driven back to the castle (must be 2am by now) and has a jolly with the other Traitors in the castle ... then they all get driven back to their lodgings to go to bed. Must be 3am at the earliest . And all up and dressed in their designer gear for breakfast the next day.

The problem is how it’s being edited. We are not getting to see chats and alliances at all. We have no idea who are friends other than Maya saying she is friends with Joanne yet, with the exception of admiring each other’s clothes at breakfast. we never see them interacting. How many more are friends?

Miranda cried over Joe leaving but they were rarely filmed talking?

As a result. we don’t know who is considered a strong Faithful.

We are missing far too much of the natural interactions in this series.

Well that's why we think there's probably sets in the hotel.

I hope this is sarcasm.

I think they may do that next morning before 'breakfast'.

Re the timings, Prof Hannah shared her Oura ring readings for the day she was banished, it showed most activity/high heart rate from about 11am to 6pm, so I think that’s when they do breakfast, task and Round Table.

re the “Diary Room” that is in the castle, they all travel individually to the castle in the morning so the murdered person is taken straight there then back to the hotel without seeing anyone else. As others have said, they’re all in and out of that room during the day, so no one thinks any differently when they’re asked to go in.

Ugh, I hate the wait! I can't even remember where we're at - what was the cliffhanger?!

Ross or Jerry murdered in plain sight, unless there's a twist.

Sharon.

Ahh, yes. Thank you!

Don’t be Ross!

At least there’s a good recap

Guess the yawning worked then given what Claudia said

Is @CaveMumat the ready?

We don't need to fill this thread up first. Lets just go to the new one.