The mother of all cons...

[Bemorebeth]

Apologies if there is another thread on this. Couldn't see one.

Thoughts?

And I imagine that many people were starstruck.

I really felt for the pilots, being in such a dangerous position, they were clearly still traumatised by the memory of thinking that they (or the passengers they were responsible for) might die.

To agree to such a dangerous and irregular proposition - there might have been an element of feeling starstruck, with such a high profile charity, celebrity connections, and then getting clearance from top people - was it the Prime Minister? I don't know if they were paid as well, but I imagine the feeling of being the "only people that can do this" and being a hero could mean they decide to take on more risks than they otherwise would.

The whole thing is so bizarre. Jean (evil evil woman), needs to be thoroughly investigated, at the very Least.

I wonder whether because of the high profile people hoodwinked, that it’s been brushed under the carpet.

Will can’t put my finger on it, but he’s not all there? Innocent? Or just not wanting to believe as he was so trusting?

Is it another sister in the podcast? I can’t seem to remember.

I took it to mean she’d caused so much distress to Megan that in effect she’d sort of lost the will to live? He still seemed to believe she had had a brain tumour and all the lies he’d been told despite definitive truth to the contrary so don’t think for one minute it would have entered his head her mother had murdered her.

A post morgen would pick up morphine from toxicology but from what I remember from the podcast it wasn’t at a level to be shown as her cause of death. She was in hospital for two weeks before she died so unless she was receiving it in hospital or Jean was sneaking it to her during her stay it may have started to clear from her system although hair samples would have proved long term opioid usage.

Yes, I guess all a post mortem could show was that there were opiods/morphine in her body, but could they show whether the amount was enough to cause death? That depends so much on tolerance levels.

And I've just seen that Jean basically poisoned another daughter with salt - I've heard of similar being done by MBP parents to children in hospital.

I think, out of the romance fraud type stories we hear, that this one definitely had to have one of the oddest - and least expected - “scammer” at the end of it! As far as I recall there wasn’t even a financial motive or gain? I’m trying to be vague because if anyone on hasn’t listened to it I really would recommend it, especially if you’ve only watched the Netflix doc! (And if you haven’t watched that then definitely watch that first! 😁
Are there any other good podcast/doc you’d recommend?
I'm on ep4 of the Jean/Meghan podcast atm and it’s pretty good so far.

Sorry for hijacking the thread!

Now on ep4! But I forgot about Maternal instincts again, so I’m determined to watch that today.

I've just watched Maternal Instincts this afternoon. I remember the case being on the news, even here in the UK.

Who killed Bob? Is a really interesting case, loads of episodes - a bit similar to this one in the sense that the case was still ongoing when the journalist started looking into it.

There’s another documentary on Monday on BBC about a woman who cons people into thinking she has cancer. Crazy how many people do this and how many people think they will get away with it!

Good god, I’ve just got to the end only the podcast.

So much more info. It’s clear this should be formally investigated.

yes there’s two in the podcast. But (I think) it actually sounds like the other sister may also have been abused by her mother so i wonder if she declined to go in the tv version

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0jjdk0m?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

(this series was advertised at the end of mother of all cons if anyone wants to listen to anything else similar)

There’s a podcast for that too. Scammanda

It’s on Tuesday not Monday 🤦🏽‍♀️
Ooh thank you - will add to the list to listen to once have watched the documentary

I’m listening to Hoaxed. Concerning. Similarities with mother of all cons, though not illness. Child abuse claims, conspiracy theories etc

it’s so important that journalists can do their job in these ways.

The issue is two fold; actual abusers hide behind claims of hoaxes, which is what June did. She accused all her accusers of being trolls and making up lies.

So I did watch that yesterday. I knew that’s what it would be about but there really was a bit of everything! So much that she did/was doing! It was almost like a bit of every type of scammer.
The actual event, that was so fucked up. I don’t even know how to describe what she did or what type of person she was, there’s just not really words! I won’t go into details, but there was one bit of description, I think by the police maybe, who described how she did it. It involved the word ‘flipped’ I think. God, that was the bit that really stuck with me.
I have heard of similar acts before. I think it was extremely telling with the staff at the original hospital saying they thought she would steal one (don’t want to go into too much detail for people who haven’t seen it yet, tho it’s obvious what I’m talking about). But all the other people who knew she couldn’t be pregnant, they didn’t seem to live too far away, they were clearly following her on social media, how is it that they didn’t tell anyone when they found out?

I just watched it all. All of it was so sinister. I personally think Meg knew about the con as she reaped the benefits of all those donations. I am not buying Megs cause of death. Makes little sense. I think Jean needs looking at again for many things.

Just finished watching the Mother of All Scams and starting Scamanda.

One thing that strikes me that they have in common is that, when describing their symptoms - or in Jean's case Meg's symptoms - they really go for it. Everything's always the worst it can possibly be. Pain is excruciating, test results are shocking, the side-effects terrible, new problems pile up and up etc.

Now in my experience people who are really suffering, or their mothers, don't talk about their illness in this way. Not because they're saints, but because it wouldn't occur to them to lay it on with a trowel.

I don't buy that it's about raising awareness either. Real suffering is something to endure and share quietly, not shout from the rooftops. So someone describing endless unfortunate events in vague but heartrending terms would be a tell for me.

I watched Scamanda yesterday, another eyebrow raising con artist, protected in many ways by the church she belonged to. At least she got imprisoned for her crimes though, unlike Jean.

You are correct it is a big tell!

I once saw an interview with a doctor talking about patients with Munchausens and he said anyone calling their pain a 10/10 is a red flag for making it up. People genuinely in pain don’t tend to go for the dramatics

@MixedFeelingsNoFeelingssome people thrive on any kind of attention and it's so much easier to get it these days on SM. My nan for instance wasn't happy unless she was talking about her own pain & misery whereas I always keep it to myself, unless someone asks. Jean must have been absolutely loving it. Imagine getting all that positive attention and being seen as a hero. She must have been laughing all the way to the bank. I wonder if she was this saintly to Meg behind closed doors?

Jean certainly got a lot of holidays and expensive trips out of people! It’s a shame she didn’t choke on a fancy burger or the oysters on that cruise. The devil tends to take care of their own and she survived it all and nothing happened to her, only to Meg.
makes you mad.

Finally listened to Sweet Bobby.

Just finished this, Megs death seemed very odd, I wondered if Jean had been feeding her absolute rubbish and that combined with all the drugs she had her on caused the liver damage.

Jean should be in jail 🤷‍♀️

How she managed to get out of the charity fraud is 🤯