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Anyone watching Channel 5's Under Suspicion Kate McCann?

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ilovebrie8 · 21/05/2026 09:14

It was on last night

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icannotlivelaughloveintheseconditions · 22/05/2026 09:06

DuaneBarry · 22/05/2026 09:03

I wasn’t the first to do so I was replying g to someone else. The whole case has been rehashed a million times so why is that the one aspect we’re or allowed to discuss again? No, the parents absolutely had a role in what happened. Other parents have suffered similarly and been criticised for various aspects of what happened and had much less help and support. What makes the McCanna so special?

it doesn’t really matter on this thread because it’s all speculation but in terms of the investigation/ search it distracts from the actual point which is catching the monster who took her in the first place.

Iamacatslave · 22/05/2026 09:08

tripleginandtonic · 22/05/2026 08:24

She could have walked out that unlocked apartment and drowned in the sea. Kate admitted that the twins had woken up on a previous night and Maddie asked where they were. So yes, on the facts we have , so far the only culpable ones are the parents.

The sea is quite some distance from the apartment. If Madeline had left the apartment, she would have been seen.

tripleginandtonic · 22/05/2026 09:09

CaesarAugusta · 22/05/2026 08:46

So the person who actually took the child isn't culpable?

Someone taking her from the apartment is only one explanation. Another could be someone taking her from outside the apartment. Another could be her parents killed her either accidentally or on purpose. Another could be she drowned or someone knocked her over and disposed of the body.

tripleginandtonic · 22/05/2026 09:10

Iamacatslave · 22/05/2026 09:08

The sea is quite some distance from the apartment. If Madeline had left the apartment, she would have been seen.

But she did leave the apartment and wasn't seen. On her own or with someone,alive or dead has never been established.

Oncemorewithsome · 22/05/2026 09:13

We were left by my parents in the era Madeleine was.
It was a mistake but not ever one that should have cost them their child. That blame lies squarely at the feet of the man who took her and murdered her.
I don’t agree with blaming parents because of these kinds of things. I think it’s immoral. There is one person responsible. He deserves the punishment.

crossedlines · 22/05/2026 09:16

CaesarAugusta · 22/05/2026 08:46

So the person who actually took the child isn't culpable?

What person is that? There is no conclusive proof she was taken. It’s one possibility among quite a number of others

IsawwhatIsaw · 22/05/2026 09:19

I think it was significant that the abduction theory was immediately suggested as the only possibility.
the question is why .

anyolddinosaur · 22/05/2026 09:27

No. I think it shouldnt have been made and wouldnt choose to watch it.

Sandycar · 22/05/2026 09:31

My parents would regularly leave me alone on holidays as a small child, I think it was the done thing then.
I remember being 7, we went to Tenerife, and my parents left me alone all day while they went for a trip to Santa Cruz. I was locked out of the apartment, so spent the day wandering around by the pool. I didn’t know how to swim at this point. I remember being very thirsty and I got horrendous sunburn on my arm that looked like bubble wrap. They didn’t put sunscreen on me. I had to be seen by a doctor the next day.
My parents were lower middle class I’d say, nothing unusual. I have very mixed feelings and emotions about my childhood. When I told my lovely husband, he said that even though it was the acceptable thing then, it still doesn’t make it right.
Im sure the Mccanns loved their children, but I cannot understand why they were so lax about looking after them.

Viviennemary · 22/05/2026 09:32

Iamacatslave · 22/05/2026 09:08

The sea is quite some distance from the apartment. If Madeline had left the apartment, she would have been seen.

Not so. Because the abductor wasn't seen. Apart from the red herring that one of them saw carrying a child. Years later said to be a father carrying his own sleeping child. I don't know why wandered off wasn't considered. There was a lot of road works and building works going on.

ChocolateAddictAlways · 22/05/2026 09:33

I won't be watching it, I find this kind of tv really harrowing, especially as there's no closure for the family. Any TV about MM and Jamie Bulger, I find very distressing (Before anyone asks 'well why are you commenting on a thread then?', I am just sharing my two pence, not making any judgement or criticism of anyone who does watch true crime)

DontShoutInMyEarholeTracey · 22/05/2026 09:34

CurlewKate · 21/05/2026 11:54

No. Because I find this sort of “true crime” stuff voyeristic and playing to the worst in human nature.

I agree with this. It must have been awful for Kate McCann and the whole family. This is real lives, not an episode of Eastenders!

diddl · 22/05/2026 09:37

So the Madeline's parents were only doing what all the local hotels offered but you paid for.

But Madeleine was in an unlocked apartment.

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/05/2026 09:41

Staying in a 5 star resort in Cyprus after Madeleine went missing, with our young children and got friendly with another family. Had dinner with them. They said going for drinks after, once we have put dcs to bed. We said no thanks we are staying with our DCs.

Couple of nights later, they are having dinner, just the two of them and there is a power cut in the hotel. Pitch black in all bedrooms. Dcs beg me to tell them as their dc are in their bedrooms on their own, they are 2 & 4. They are not bothered. Say their dcs will not wake up.

I can imagine the McCanns may be of a similar ilk. They may have paid a price, but not one as high as their daughter.

I will not be watching. But I think their DCs should have been removed.

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/05/2026 09:43

I forgot to add I’m in my 60’s and my parents never left me or my siblings alone of an evening on holiday while we were little.

deeahgwitch · 22/05/2026 09:43

Sandycar · 22/05/2026 09:31

My parents would regularly leave me alone on holidays as a small child, I think it was the done thing then.
I remember being 7, we went to Tenerife, and my parents left me alone all day while they went for a trip to Santa Cruz. I was locked out of the apartment, so spent the day wandering around by the pool. I didn’t know how to swim at this point. I remember being very thirsty and I got horrendous sunburn on my arm that looked like bubble wrap. They didn’t put sunscreen on me. I had to be seen by a doctor the next day.
My parents were lower middle class I’d say, nothing unusual. I have very mixed feelings and emotions about my childhood. When I told my lovely husband, he said that even though it was the acceptable thing then, it still doesn’t make it right.
Im sure the Mccanns loved their children, but I cannot understand why they were so lax about looking after them.

That was horrific for you @Sandycar
It definitely wasn’t the norm.
Had you siblings ?

Allseeingallknowing · 22/05/2026 09:49

Oncemorewithsome · 22/05/2026 09:13

We were left by my parents in the era Madeleine was.
It was a mistake but not ever one that should have cost them their child. That blame lies squarely at the feet of the man who took her and murdered her.
I don’t agree with blaming parents because of these kinds of things. I think it’s immoral. There is one person responsible. He deserves the punishment.

But they were responsible for the safety of their children and they let them down. They have to accept that their actions allowed an evil opportunist the chance to abduct their child and put the other two at risk of harm. They were intelligent, but very naive adults. Most parents would not leave their child in harms way. They know this and it will haunt them forever. I do feel sort for them. It’s a tremendous burden to bear.

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 09:51

Allseeingallknowing · 22/05/2026 09:49

But they were responsible for the safety of their children and they let them down. They have to accept that their actions allowed an evil opportunist the chance to abduct their child and put the other two at risk of harm. They were intelligent, but very naive adults. Most parents would not leave their child in harms way. They know this and it will haunt them forever. I do feel sort for them. It’s a tremendous burden to bear.

You could say that about the parent of any abducted child.

Allseeingallknowing · 22/05/2026 09:53

Hadenough32 · 22/05/2026 08:46

I worked abroad in kids club in countries like Spain, portugal, Turkey etc..most hotels also ran a service that you put your name on a list and we would check on your kids overnight. This is only going back 15 years.
How it worked was that we worked through the list and went in and checked on the kids roughly every 30mins. If they were awake we put them back to bed or if crying we called the parent to come back. But still it was standard and accepted. So the Madeline's parents were only doing what all the local hotels offered but you paid for.

I don't know if hotels still do this.

They weren’t. They didn’t have an arrangement like that. They, and the other couples took it in turn to check all their children at intervals.

Allseeingallknowing · 22/05/2026 09:55

FernFaery · 22/05/2026 09:51

You could say that about the parent of any abducted child.

Why? Not every very young abducted child was left on their own in an unlocked room!

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 22/05/2026 09:58

@ScupperedbytheSea is right.

You’re canvassing for opinions, when you haven’t even watched it yourself. So, how can you contribute to the discussion?

JontyGentooey · 22/05/2026 09:59

Why they ever, ever thought this was an ok arrangement is beyond me. Ground floor apartment, two entry doors, plus windows, and everything left unlocked. A public road on one side and a massive dark swimming pool on the other. 3 tiny children in an unfamiliar location, who might very well wake up confused and/or distressed. These are two intelligent adults, just wtaf were they doing.

Emilesgran · 22/05/2026 10:06

Sandycar · 22/05/2026 09:31

My parents would regularly leave me alone on holidays as a small child, I think it was the done thing then.
I remember being 7, we went to Tenerife, and my parents left me alone all day while they went for a trip to Santa Cruz. I was locked out of the apartment, so spent the day wandering around by the pool. I didn’t know how to swim at this point. I remember being very thirsty and I got horrendous sunburn on my arm that looked like bubble wrap. They didn’t put sunscreen on me. I had to be seen by a doctor the next day.
My parents were lower middle class I’d say, nothing unusual. I have very mixed feelings and emotions about my childhood. When I told my lovely husband, he said that even though it was the acceptable thing then, it still doesn’t make it right.
Im sure the Mccanns loved their children, but I cannot understand why they were so lax about looking after them.

Jesus Christ. That's shocking.

My children are all older than Madeline McCann, and not only did we never leave them on their own until much older than that, but my parents, who had five children, never left us on our own at that age either. Never mind for a full day!

NewspaperTaxis · 22/05/2026 10:07

People bring their own bias into a story like this and I'm no different. My take on it is that the Portuguese police were getting slated by the British media for their incompetence investigating the crime - the normal idea is that the family should be the first to be suspected and investigated, not leave it a fortnight or so before looking into that. Also, the local tourist trade was being hit. Thirdly, it later became known that the local police had turned a blind eye to breaking and entering and petty theft all along that resort, possibly because they were mates with the local criminals, it seems likely.

With all that in mind, and with shadow being thrown at the police and the press badly needing a new angle, the police did the usual conventional thing, the only thing possible in those circumstances - they victim blamed. They started to put it about that the parents had a part in the murder. We saw it with Hillsborough, the Contaminated Blood scandal, the Post Office scandal and so on, possibly Lucy Letby, it's basic police procedure.

And people feel less sorry or heartbroken over the situation then because they feel the parents were responsible and at least knew what occurred.

After that the Met got a few freebies in sunny climes 'investigating' the disappearance and bizarrely managed to turn up not one instance of any paedophile ring or such behaviour in the course of their inquiries over many years. The German police seem to have sorted this one, however.

fantam · 22/05/2026 10:24

I reckon the poor kid woke and wandered. She cried for her parents at night according to the lady in the flat above theirs. It is quite possible (probable?) that she was knocked down by a car/drunken/reckless driver and the driver panicked and did something to hide her somewhere known only to a local. Just my theory.

She is dead now, and it was a horrible thing to happen. I hope she rests in peace wherever she is.

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