Anyone watching Channel 5's Under Suspicion Kate McCann?

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It was on last night

Erm, possibly it's not the same people criticising the other parents of missing children?

But I can only possibly want to refrain from putting the boot in to bereaved parents because they are middle class. 🙄

So bereaved and traumatised that Kate wrote a book describing her “visions” of her daughter being raped in pretty graphic detail.

They’re reprehensible people.

Completely agree! I grew up in the 80s and 90s and was never left so it wasn’t a ‘thing’ in my family. If they had been working class then social services would have been on them.

I agree

This is the strangest part to me. The arrogance and rage. The other children should have been removed. But they have connections.

They knew Gordon Brown/someone in his government didn’t they?

But someone commenting on the internet can’t do anything about the behaviour of the parents of a dead child. That poster is just pointing out that ‘Maddie’, like ‘Jamie’ Bulger, is a tabloid headline confection.

Wider than that, but you can't say it or you'll be deleted.

My sympathies are all with Madeleine.

She could have walked out that unlocked apartment and drowned in the sea. Kate admitted that the twins had woken up on a previous night and Maddie asked where they were. So yes, on the facts we have , so far the only culpable ones are the parents.

Any time there's a thread about this, it's inevitable that someone will come up with the staggeringly original thought that they shouldn't have left the children. The subject has been done to death a zillion times, not least on MN. Why do you think it necessary to criticise them yet again? What is it adding to the discussion? It's (a) tedious and (b) tasteless. The fact remains that the only person responsible for this is the piece of utter scum who abducted a 4 year old little girl, and that her parents have suffered more than most of us can ever possibly comprehend as a result. Why keep banging on about them rather than the perpetrator?

So the person who actually took the child isn't culpable?

I worked abroad in kids club in countries like Spain, portugal, Turkey etc..most hotels also ran a service that you put your name on a list and we would check on your kids overnight. This is only going back 15 years.
How it worked was that we worked through the list and went in and checked on the kids roughly every 30mins. If they were awake we put them back to bed or if crying we called the parent to come back. But still it was standard and accepted. So the Madeline's parents were only doing what all the local hotels offered but you paid for.

I don't know if hotels still do this.

Who was that? No one has been convicted of this crime.

No. Because I find this sort of “true crime” stuff voyeristic and playing to the worst in human nature.

This with bells on!!! Someone else’s pain as entertainment, no thanks.

I suspect her name was rather important to her and those who loved her. Refusing to use it is just laziness.

Just a few

Im nc with them now,but honestly-even back then (when times where different) you didnt leave young children asleep while you fucked off out

If you'd heard them laughing about it over breakfast the following morning,you would have been disgusted

They couldnt see what they'd done wrong-they left 4 young children in the hotel and fucked off much further than the mccanns (who where sat the same sort of distance as me sitting in my garden at home)

She once went mental at me for putting the kids to bed and going into my back garden to bring my washing in (I cant remember why id left it so late-knowing me,id forgotten all about it)

'Anything could have happened to them!'

Yes,well anything could have happened to us and you thought it was hilarious

I'll never forget the disgust on their faces when the story broke that the mccanns had left 3 dc in a hotel to have dinner just outside (not excusing this-its not something I would have done myself but I've made a lot of mistakes as a parent-there for the grace of god)

Thank god they dont have access to the Internet as they would have been the most vocal in their attacks on the mccanns

Conveniently 'forgetting' their own behaviour and when I mentioned they'd done the same thing,they denied it ever happened!

I think the McCann's holiday set up was strange. Kids in the creche all day and left alone in an apartment all evening.
I don't believe , however , that they did anything intentional to hurt M. They obviously love their kids and are devastated at what has happened.
I think the Portuguese were surprised by the McCann's choices, but also massively fed up that it resulted in so much bad publicity for the area.
Whoever went to check on the kids would,quite understandably, be checking that they were not crying, rather than checking that they hadn't been abducted.

@housepaidoff which book was that in? I know that she did have a dream and because she'd shared her dream, she had to repeat it in court. All Mothers of missing children, including Jay Slater, tell of disturbing, vivid dreams. Considering Kate was often prescribed anti anxiety and sleeping medication from the local doctor, scary dreams would be considered normal.
I don't think that they directly killed Madelaine, but the difference in how Scarlett Keelings Mother, Fiona, was treated, in the press was world away from Kate's treatment.

You k ow the McCanns did have anything to do with the c5 drama right?

There’s no evidence of an abduction. Interesting that it was was immediately suggested and assumed.
yet previous evenings the children were appareheard awake and crying.
i also read that Madeleine had been found one night outside the apartment, looking for her parents.

I wasn’t the first to do so I was replying g to someone else. The whole case has been rehashed a million times so why is that the one aspect we’re or allowed to discuss again? No, the parents absolutely had a role in what happened. Other parents have suffered similarly and been criticised for various aspects of what happened and had much less help and support. What makes the McCanna so special?

You are thinking logically nobody knows what they would do in that instance it’s a fight/flight moment.

i once lost my dd (4) in a theme park and after the initial search when she definitely wasn’t in the immediate area I completely panicked and couldn’t breathe. I was useless . Thankfully my friends searched and alerted staff (who were also useless there was no missing child policy in place) and after about 20 minutes she was found. You don’t know how you are going to react.

it was common to
leave kids in hotel rooms - probably right up until madeleine. Obviously it is bizzare that people did this but it was normal! I remember being excited to find out what restaurant outside the hotel my parents went to tbh night before. It's not right but you have to accept it was the done thing. I think it's very mean to target Kate as her mother. Channel 5 should be ashamed of themselves . Brukner has to be the guy.

And if you think the area is so safe that leaving three young children in an apartment alone whilst dining nearby is totally fine, then why would you immediately jump to something nefarious happening, like an abduction, especially when there are no signs of a disturbance/the other children haven't been taken also?