Anyone watching Channel 5's Under Suspicion Kate McCann?

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It was on last night

Oh for heaven’s sake!! No one has suggested they aren’t functioning adults. Just pointed out that the terrible event will inevitably have impacted negatively on the family. It’s ludicrous and actually quite heartless to pretend otherwise.

I’ve no interest in watching the programme, nor starting a thread to speculate about the McCanns or what happened. But if a thread is posted and I disagree with something (or agree, as I did with a post by @bigboykitty) then I’ll respond. None of us need your permission to post!

I’m watching this show now and I will never understand how they were so selfish to do this. It wasn’t like they been with them during the day it’s not like they needed a break. Had they had been less professional people they would have definitely been charged with neglect. I think every parent who was on holiday with them should all have been charged with negligence no matter what their background was. They were all in the wrong and not naive but bloody stupid and selfish people who didn’t think of their children. Why not go out in turns or take kids either way they should have been jailed for this all of them it’s irrelevant if they were checking in on them because they should not have left them I really hope they are suffering they deserve to. They are carrying on with their lives the only person people should feel sorry for is an innocent 3 year old child. It’s wasn’t a mistake even if they never hurt her they were responsible for what happened to her which ever way you look at it.

@Pessismistic I agree. I will never be able to get my head around it. What if there had been a fire?! And they only checked on them every half hour? Poor poor kids.

Totally agree. Incredibly negligent.

I remember one of the McCanns saying what they did was no different to sitting in the back garden while your kids are in bed. That shows a level of trying to justify their actions and taking no responsibility for what happened. Deeply arrogant people.

Exactly they even said madeleine was a kid who woke up regularly and went in their bedroom so they knew she wasn’t a great sleeper. I have no sympathy whatsoever.

They must have a very big garden.

Yes! I'm sure I read that she had woken up a night or two before and wandered into the parents bedroom. And the parents admitted Madeleine had asked where they were and why no one has came when they were crying. And yet the McCanns continued to leave them alone! Honestly, aside from the neglect, it's just cruel. Imagine waking up at that age in a strange place and your parents are nowhere to be seen!
I get really mad at this.

It's breathtakingly cruel to continue doing it after Madeline told them she was frightened.

Yep that bit I can’t get my head around she was crying and awake previously, the woman upstairs heard crying for an hour.

Do you get that saying how neglectful they were, over and over, doesn't achieve anything except scratch some itch you might want to investigate?

Not sure who this is aimed at @EasilyPleased .

But why are on a thread if it annoys you?

Scroll on by …no need to be on the thread if you don’t like people commenting. Trying to stop what you don’t like being discussed, this is a talk forum.

The thread was to discuss a documentary. No issue with that. But people endlessly saying the McCanns were negligent parents, over and over, has nothing to do with the documentary, and serves absolutely no purpose other than people trying to feel better about themselves because their child wasn’t abducted while they were left alone in an unlocked apartment.

No need to watch anymore documentrys on this case or listen to any fake news. Her parents are responsible for her disappearance end of.

This is what I think. Said it here. Probably tragic accident.

WTF

Definately not normal. No idea in which decade you were 7, but I was a 1970’s child and that would have been considered horrendously neglectful even then.

Hotandpointy. 💯 agree with all you have said

There’s no way at all that was normal. What your parents did was not acceptable at all. In fact it was very neglectful indeed. I don’t know anyone who would have considered that normal at the time or in the sixties either.

Aside from anything else those twins could have been sick and choked to death. I’ve always wondered why the “perpetrator” took a 3 year old who could speak and not the twins?? I am convinced the parents had something to do with it.

Having accidentally visited Praia da Luz around 2016 (booked a specialist surf holiday and didn’t check the location rather than being a weird stalker) I was shocked how close and open to a busy road the apartment was.
A car accident would be my first assumption.
Then looking at the 100 yard distance between the tapas bar and the apartment with a swimming pool in between surely accidental drowning would be pretty high up on the possibility list. To jump to abduction with unlocked doors was frankly bizarre.

The parents were negligent and then obstructive during the investigations.

I cannot get my head round keeping the investigation publicly alive both physically and financially yet not staging a reconstruction of events with actors which even now could be immensely helpful in jogging memories and clearing up confusions.

@stayathomegardeneri can’t understand the refusal to engage in a reconstruction, which is a perfectly routine thing to happen when there is suspicion a crime has been commited. And the McCanns were totally convinced there had been a crime, as their first (and only) assumption was an abduction.

i wonder whether their refusal to participate was because a reconstruction could have shown their version of timings, checking on the children, to be incorrect?

FWIW my opinion is that the McCanns didn’t directly cause MM harm; I think it would be nigh on impossible to keep the campaign going so publicly for so long if they actually knew what had happened to her. But there is a wide spectrum between being directly responsible and being whiter than white. Obviously they were astonishingly negligent in putting all three children at risk, quite apart from anything, any of the children could have been scared/ sick/ had a nightmare/ MM could have got out of bed and hurt herself etc etc. And alongside this, the arrogant attitude, refusal to accept they did anything wrong and refusal to participate in a reconstruction don’t sit well with many people. I do wonder whether the children were checked as frequently or at the actual times the McCanns have claimed. A reconstruction could have thrown light on any inaccuracies - and equally, could have helped to piece together an accurate time line.

Yes me too especially having dc the same age who know who their parents are and would scream whereas the babies might only cry. I always wondered if they had given them something to sleep and it killed her because they said madeleine woke at home a lot so she wasn’t a good sleeper. I didn’t realise until this show that the male friend didn’t even check properly after offering too.

Well if you listen to James English podcast with the foreign detective he says they drugged her the night before she woke up dazed fell hit her head died and they removed her body. She did not “go missing” on the night they claimed. It’s a really interesting podcast.

I think the police wanted to do a reconstruction because there were contradictions between the versions of events they had from all the different witnesses. I.e. someone out of those 5-10 people was lying. Or perhaps misrembering due to alcohol or drugs consumption that they didn't want to admit to.

Oh wow what a fine detective he sounds, he even managed to draw that conclusion despite the fact they all had hair strand tests (including the twins) and no evidence was found of drugging. How did he get around that part out of interest, did he have a stunning theory about how they cheated the test too?