Anyone watching Channel 5's Under Suspicion Kate McCann?

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It was on last night

So the German police are also ‘in on it' too

I have no idea what you mean by that.

I also have no theory about what happened that night.

I believe, as it stands, the case cannot be solved as it seems there is no evidence to charge anyone. All we have are suspicions and allegations that can't be proven or disproven in court / a trial.

Do you believe differently?

The irony😂 There us no proof she was ‘taken by a paedophile’ and that assumption is no more valid than any other ‘conspiracy’ theory.

There can be compelling evidence sometimes but not quite enough to go to trial. There are many ‘suspects’ out there where it’s generally accepted they did it but they just don’t quite have enough evidence for conviction. The German police have been clear that they think he did it, they will know far more than you do.

I'm not aware that they lied and changed their stories numerous times. What were the lies and story changes?

That doesn't mean they weren't hung out to dry. They absolutely were.

There's no reason that the German police would want a German person to be the abductor, unless they had reason to believe he did it. What motive would there be for them to scapegoat a German person over it? It's not like anyone would be keen for it to be someone of their own nationality.

There could easily have been a break in the clouds when the picture was taken. Especially where they were. If it's even true it was a cloudy day

I agree if that had been a young couple in unskilled jobs or on benefits. They would of been charged with neglect at minimum and had their other 2 kids taken.

Exactly

What I don't understand is, if Kate had just gone to the apartment and found that one of her children was missing, why would she then leave the younger two alone in the room again to go back to the tapas bar when the supposed kidnapper could still be in the vicinity/even hiding somewhere in the apartment? She could've shouted from the apartment to get people's attention, and surely you would do anything to stay close to your babies just in case. Also, the fact that they immediately jumped to the conclusion that Maddie had been 'taken' rather than wandered off on her own, maybe even to find Mummy or Daddy if she'd woken and was upset like previous nights, just doesn't sit right with me.

You don't know what evidence the German police have

And bang on about it for TWENTY YEARS. And then make a shitty, low-rent Channel 5 "drama" about it.

Disgusting.

Imagine leaving your children alone in an apartment while you’re off drinking and eating with friends, with no regard to your five year old or twin babies.

Imagine then going on a 20 year media crusade while you should be behind bars for neglect!

This sums up my views. I can't see any purpose to this programme except to titillate the bosom hoiking masses and further torment a tortured family. I find it grubby and voyeuristic and I do judge anyone watching it for 'entertainment'.

I’m 60 and my parents NEVER left us alone on holiday at the age the McCann children were, and nor did I ever leave mine.

We have regularly done things like take turns minding the children and bringing a takeaway back to the person/couple who didn’t get to go out. The McCanns were in a big enough group to do that easily.

(That said I’ve never thought they were actually involved and still don’t. No intention of watching the broadcast.)

Im almost 40 and was never left you would just push 2 chairs together and just sleep where ever you where with a jacket or cardigan chucked over you. I did the same with my kids perhaps not the best parenting but significantly better then leaving them in an apartment by themselves

We used to go on villa holidays all the time when we were younger and my parents wouldn’t even sit out on the patio when we were in bed. They’d lock up and sit inside (usually playing scrabble 🤣), if they wanted to go out for dinner they’d do it at a time that suited us, not them, because that’s what parents do.

We were in Portugal and in the same town, at the time Maddie was abducted. There was some seriously weird shit going on, a couple of nights my parents heard something round our bin bags, they assumed it was dogs but one night they saw a car approaching the villa. It was absolutely bizarre.

Good point

My daughter was born in 2019 and we were offered this service at a ‘child friendly’ hotel that year!! My first thought was ‘how bout no, madeleine mcann???’ But also, if there was a fire, who’s getting her out? The person running the listening service, would be allowed to go upstairs to get her? Or is it a case of waiting for the fire brigade to hopefully get her out??

needless to say we didn’t use it, we paid one of the staff working in the crèche to babysit instead.

Her name was Madeleine, her family didn't call her Maddie, the press did. Tacky. Use her name if you're going to talk about her.

I’m not interested in watching it, but my DC are similar in age to Madeline and I remember at the time thinking who leaves their DC in an unlocked room to go to eat?

The only time we didn’t that was at a ‘child friendly’ hotel that had baby listening - which was before the MM case and I think was swiftly cancelled! We never did that again. But even at that time we were in the hotel itself rather than a separate building.

They made a big mistake and paid massively for it. I do agree if they were from a council estate they would’ve been under a lot more scrutiny.

Oh stop. They lost their little girl, is that not punishment enough? I agree it was the wrong thing to do but people make mistakes. Most don't pay so heavily for them.

I’m giving it a swerve. I think as TV entertainment it’s just too raw and pointless.

I was brought up in the 70s/80s by a pair of big drinkers and we had many holidays. We were never left - not for a second. We were taken to a boring amount of pubs on holiday but we were never left. My eldest dc are within weeks of the McCann kids - dc1 a few days younger than MM and dc2 a few weeks older than the twins. I would never in a million years have left them in those circumstances. We had been on similar holidays and not left them. I don’t know anybody who would have thought that was ok. GM said things changed after what happened to them but it’s not true. I don’t believe they were involved. I wouldn’t be surprised if the kids had been dosed up on medised - it was really common at the time and they got 3 kids to fall asleep in the same room by about 6pm - but the idea that MM died of an antihistamine overdose and they just disposed of her body and went and sat in a tapas bar and waited for one of their friends to discover she had gone is ridiculous and unnecessary. That said I think it was entirely appropriate for the police to rigorously investigate them - more kids are hurt by their parents than strangers.

This wasn’t a mistake.

It was a repeated negligent choice.

Had they not been white, upper class doctors, they wouldn’t have got the cushty treatment they did.

I agree. The killer barely gets a mention by these people.
It's like when my local police reported that a woman walking home one evening was assaulted. The first comment underneath was to criticise her for walking home alone. No criticism of the attacker. Just the victim!